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Projects & Parts => Garage/Tech => Topic started by: madkmart on July 16, 2008, 01:06:53 AM

Title: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: madkmart on July 16, 2008, 01:06:53 AM
plz list all the axles in order from strongest to weakest want to know
where a dana s60 and  dana 44hd ranks
reason for thinking of upgradeding my axles and doing a sas  ;D
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: Econo-box from Hell on July 16, 2008, 02:54:11 AM
Rockwell 5 tons - strongest
Used unicycle axle - weakest
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: millser on July 16, 2008, 03:06:07 AM
depens how much money you want to put in a axle
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: Fraser on July 16, 2008, 03:07:07 AM
Quote from: millser on July 16, 2008, 03:06:07 AM
depens how much money you want to put in a axle

X2, and what size tires, and what kinda power you are running
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: madkmart on July 16, 2008, 03:32:57 AM
Max 38 tires wth lockers front and rear
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: Eroq on July 16, 2008, 04:37:34 AM
dana 60 is overkill for 38s... anything bigger than that is ==slap

i'd use a 10bolt over a 44, parts are DIME A DOZEN, keep the front unlocked.. you wont break much if anything...

i ran 42x20" tractor tires on a 44HD open, only broke one shaft.
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: Bo Duke on July 16, 2008, 06:05:35 AM
i run 38 boggers on a 44 ifs only broke one u joint
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: Coon Dog on July 16, 2008, 07:44:42 AM
Front Axles Weakest to Strongest (http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/154_0708_weakest_to_strongest_axles/index.html)

Rear Axles Weakest to Strongest (http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/154_0708_weakest_to_strongest_axles/index1.html)

Axle Identification (http://www.coloradok5.com/axleguide.shtml)

Axle Identification Chart (http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/67298_stock_axle_guide/index.html)
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: madkmart on July 16, 2008, 12:13:24 PM
Can a 44hd b a bolt n for a 89 bronco
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: DirtyChevy on July 16, 2008, 12:14:22 PM
it lists that a 14 bolt FF is better than a 2.5 rock....thats crazy
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: ~SwampRAT~ on July 16, 2008, 01:53:22 PM
Quote from: madkmart on July 16, 2008, 12:13:24 PM
Can a 44hd b a bolt n for a 89 bronco

ive never done the swap when when i had my 88 i looked into it vaguely. its not a direct bolt in, there is definatly some fabrication needed. its pretty easy to find help from people that has done this online.
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: Fraser on July 16, 2008, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: madkmart on July 16, 2008, 12:13:24 PM
Can a 44hd b a bolt n for a 89 bronco

NO, it is a leaf sprung axle, you would have to put coil mounts, etc. on it.  look for older bronco striaght axles, should be pretty close to bolt in, radius arm mounts, etc
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: 7387chevynut on July 18, 2008, 10:52:54 AM
If your looking for a Ford  Heavy Duty Dana 44, ya gotta find one in a pre 77 Ford F250 High Boy truck, cause Ford never offered a 3/4 ton bronco.
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: slymer on July 18, 2008, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: Econo-box from Hell on July 16, 2008, 02:54:11 AM
Rockwell 5 tons - strongest
Used unicycle axle - weakest
I think a hotwheels axle is weaker
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: Fraser on July 18, 2008, 06:11:06 PM
Quote from: 7387chevynut on July 18, 2008, 10:52:54 AM
If your looking for a Ford  Heavy Duty Dana 44, ya gotta find one in a pre 77 Ford F250 High Boy truck, cause Ford never offered a 3/4 ton bronco.

It was also offered thro 79, in a HP.  he has a ttb bronco, thats why i put the bronco axles in there
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: madkmart on July 18, 2008, 06:12:36 PM
Wht u mean fraser
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: Fraser on July 18, 2008, 08:00:22 PM
Quote from: madkmart on July 18, 2008, 06:12:36 PM
Wht u mean fraser

what i mean is, your bronco has coils and radius arms in the front, correct? this is a ford 44HD-
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g101/taurus_dude/IMG_0411.jpg)
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g101/taurus_dude/IMG_0412.jpg)

it has leaf mounts on it, not coil buckets and radius arm wedges/mounts
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: drthunder33 on July 18, 2008, 08:50:55 PM
Strongest I've seen are clark 20 ton planetary axles.
Title: Re: axles list in order strong to weak
Post by: 7387chevynut on July 18, 2008, 09:08:32 PM
Speaking for CHEVY HD Dana 44's..................they have the much larger external bolt on Spicer hubs, or full time drive flange. The only thing heavy duty about them is that the outer portion of the axle (locking hub's/ bearings/rotor hub housing) are larger than 1/2 ton. GM used the HD44 from early mid 60's till early 1977. In mid 1977 they switched the outer portion of the 3/4 ton front axles to the smaller 1/2 ton locking hub/bearing assembly. 

Funny thing is, the chevy Dana HD44 inner and outer axle shafts are the same as the 1/2 ton  dana 44 shafts, both 30 spline inner, and 19 spline outer, and U joint size is the same too
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w162/7387chevynut/DSC01142.jpg) (http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w162/7387chevynut/DSC01142.jpg)
Ford used the HD 44 axle also, but all those I;ve seen had the large external bolt on Spicer/Ford hubs.