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On The Trail => The Mud Pit ~ Discussion => Topic started by: Ranger Dave on July 22, 2008, 12:32:07 PM

Title: obama can he be ?
Post by: Ranger Dave on July 22, 2008, 12:32:07 PM
> CAN OBAMA BE LEGALLY PRESIDENT?
>
> It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be President after all for
the
> following reason:
> Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the
law
> on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December
24,
> 1952 to November 13, 1986? Presidential office requires a natural-born
citizen
> if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is

> what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal . US Law
very
> clearly stipulates: ".If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the
time of your
> birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least
ten
> years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack
Obama's
> father was not a U.S. citizen and
Obama's mother was only 18 when
Obama was
> born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or
citizen
> perhaps because of Hawaii's being a territory) the mother fails the
test for
> being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but
*after*
> age 16. It doesn't matter *after* . In essence, she was not old
enough to
> qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only
2
> years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's
birth when
> she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21
> years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a

> natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student
at the time and
> was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother
would
> have needed
to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent.
Obama
> instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still
> disqualify him from holding the office.
>
>
>
> *** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President.
***
> Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info

> does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a
U.S.
> citizen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of
those
> years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in
the
> country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had,
rather than
> living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama's aides stopped his
speech
> about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have
led to
> this
discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S.
> election law. I think the Gov. of California would be very insterested in
knowing
> this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S.
> citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because
I suspect
> some of this information will be leaking through over the next several
days.
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: Hammerlane on July 22, 2008, 04:18:40 PM
this info came out late last year, I heard about it and then it got squashed..
this is part of our election law and the constitution however.. Hillary and her cronies believe that the constitution is "Outdated " (her words) and is only a "General guideline" of the laws and rules of the US.
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: Bigdaddy on July 22, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
propaganda ==dunno
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: Mudlight on July 22, 2008, 11:59:01 PM
Quote from: Bigdaddy on July 22, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
propaganda ==dunno

obama made the statement he woul not be swarn in on the bible,and also that he truns his back to the usa flag
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: mudboggincrazy on July 23, 2008, 12:39:55 AM
Quote from: Bigdaddy on July 22, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
propaganda ==dunno
x2
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: chevotass on July 23, 2008, 02:37:45 AM
Quote from: Mudlight on July 22, 2008, 11:59:01 PM
Quote from: Bigdaddy on July 22, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
propaganda ==dunno

obama made the statement he woul not be swarn in on the bible,and also that he truns his back to the usa flag

desperate people make up desperate stories.  this is a funny one right here. 
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: Mrs. OC on July 23, 2008, 03:39:10 AM
I totally agree.. PROPAGANDA
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: 7387chevynut on July 23, 2008, 09:07:15 PM
MCCAIN's GOT MY VOTE in Nov.
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: Bigdaddy on July 24, 2008, 01:13:49 AM
hate is a strong word, & there is to much hate in this world already, how can a person HATE someone they have never met, ==hmmm Lifes to short, I HATE THIS POST... good luck
Quote from: Trent on July 24, 2008, 01:08:12 AM
i cant vote

obama cant run this country, his kind hates us

i hate him
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: Squirell on July 24, 2008, 01:32:58 AM
I am voting for obama
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: chevotass on July 24, 2008, 02:10:03 AM
obama in 08.    are country cant survive another 4 years of this crap.
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: Ranger Dave on July 24, 2008, 08:14:39 AM
its not the  President the  drove the  auto industry and all the  jobs  out of here .  its everyone  buying the  cheep  china  items  to save a buck.  ==dunno

i seen this  going to happen  back in the  70s

now  the  U.S.   is  full of  other  products.  not  are own.   who is to  blame  for that.  i don't think  bush or  anyone  else  makes you  go  buy that  crap.

i ask  for  american  items  or  tools,  if  i can get them.    there  getting  harder to  find  all the  time. 

  it  goes  back to fare trade,     should be  items  one  for  one.    or tax there p00  like they do to  us.  then  they  could  sell there  p00  here.   nothing  fare  about it.   but that  started  way before  President Bush.


maby they can  tax the  hell out  of the  auto industry  to  pay our  welfare because of  no jobs here  any more.      you now the  parts  made in  other  countrys.     if they made it  hard for them to ship the  parts  back here.  they wouldn't  do it that way.    o well.     you or  me  can do  nothing  about it.    so grab your ass,     we are  going  for a  ride  ;D
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: Hammerlane on July 24, 2008, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: Ranger Dave on July 24, 2008, 08:14:39 AM
its not the  President the  drove the  auto industry and all the  jobs  out of here .  its everyone  buying the  cheep  china  items  to save a buck.  ==dunno

i seen this  going to happen  back in the  70s

now  the  U.S.   is  full of  other  products.  not  are own.   who is to  blame  for that.  i don't think  bush or  anyone  else  makes you  go  buy that  crap.

i ask  for  american  items  or  tools,  if  i can get them.    there  getting  harder to  find  all the  time. 

  it  goes  back to fare trade,     should be  items  one  for  one.    or tax there p00  like they do to  us.  then  they  could  sell there  p00  here.   nothing  fare  about it.   but that  started  way before  President Bush.


maby they can  tax the  hell out  of the  auto industry  to  pay our  welfare because of  no jobs here  any more.      you now the  parts  made in  other  countrys.     if they made it  hard for them to ship the  parts  back here.  they wouldn't  do it that way.    o well.     you or  me  can do  nothing  about it.    so grab your ass,     we are  going  for a  ride  ;D

Hey.. look.. somebody else gets it.

Kinda funny how all the Dems scream about the war, yet.. vote consistantly to extend troop movements, tours of duty.. budget dollar increases.. lil 2 faced if ya ask me, now they're talkin about increases in Afganistan troops,  at least Bush is standing his ground on this..

Funny how a Michigan Dem in his what 5th.. 6th term?? can't get the local govt together and improve our economy (HE's BEEN THERE ALMOST 20 YRS !!) our state govt is a joke and they know it..yet just voted themselves another pay increase,, and they're keeping they're benifits long after they are gone.. did you know 1 term in Mich. politics gets you.......
LIFETIME HEALTH CARE at our expense
LIFETIME PENSION  at our expense
Extended benifits too lengthy to list..

They've voted this for themselves AGAIN..AFTER the state shutdown debacle last year !!
(which by the way ended up costing us several tax increases.. and the state budget added another couple of hundred thousand to the deficit)

You CANNOT pin this on 1 man.. he has stuck by his guns and made improvements, yep.. he lied
So did Clinton.. (did'nt inhale my a**) and he's considered a hero of sorts,, after committing ADULTRY and lying about that!!

Yep.. Bush has made some mistakes, made unpopular decisions and stuck by them, held this country together after the largest most devistating terrorist ATTACK on our soil this country has ever seen, he's not the greatest president ever but... for those of you too young to realize it.. this is NOT the end of the world, just a slump/low spot in the regular cycle of things.. check into your history books ( yea, I know.. whats that??) we've been here before, it happens once every 20 yrs or so.

end of rant.. just my .02
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: GregYAMAHA on July 24, 2008, 08:32:38 PM
i think obama is going to get assinated and hillary probably relized that and thought she would to and dropped out. for a long time the usa has had white prez and if we admite it or not noone wants a black prez or women prez. i think hillary would have been better though becaue you wouldnt get ine prez you would get two.
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: KingCracker on July 26, 2008, 02:40:53 AM
yanno i TOTALLY agree with Dave on this one. I dont support Bush, hes a bad president for other reason. But im 100% behind Dave on this issue. Obama is a pile of elitist crap, McCain isnt much better. Im voting for BobBarr this year. wont do much good cause hes neither democrat or republican but neither of those parties are getting my vote. they dont deserve it. Anyone that thinks the Constitution is outdated and not usable should not be allowed in politics
Title: Re: obama can he be ?
Post by: free2blaze on July 26, 2008, 03:33:30 AM
I wont vote for either, I do say, Obama was born in a us state he is a us citizen as far as im concerned, and for him being assasinated, nobody will ever get the chance, nobody could get close enough,im sure his security will be greater than any president in the past for that reason,and c'mon if anyone could get close enough dont ya think somebody would have planted a bush by now, ;D get it, seriously our goverment is screwed up and neither Obama or McCain will make any difference, anything they say is all lies just like anything anyother politition in the past has said, and even if Obama is'nt a legal us citizen according to the federal goverments age of retirement for a federal goverment job McCain is too old for the job.