Swappin frames here, basically. Thought I'd take some pics as I went along so folks tryin this for the 1st time will know what to expect. ;D ==wgm
That body has to go on this.
curious to see how this goes. Good Luck!
It took a couple nights of soakin with WD-40 and workin the bolts back and forth, but I got all the bolts out without bustin or strippin out the holes. There are holes made by the factory that can be used to spray the oil at the weld nut inside. Some of the bolts were very thin, all will need replaced. I painted the back part of the frame with some rust inhibitor glossy black. There was alot of wires at the back, I marked it all for when it gets hooked back up.
Well, then Tomac came along and we took the front clip and the cab off the 2wd frame and got it outta here. GotMud? ;D
Youre looking at the top of the front bumper, passenger side. That tab with a bolt hole hangs over the top of a skirt of sorts that is all the way around the bottom front of the clip. You must remove the front bumper and pull the bumper bracket out a bit by hand in order to clear and remove the front clip. Im a savage, and I think I bent the bumper bracket a little bit.. ==doh
only had to cut two bolt to get the body off haha your buddy gonna help ya get the body on?
Quote from: TOMAC on May 26, 2010, 02:06:34 AM
only had to cut two bolt to get the body off haha your buddy gonna help ya get the body on?
The 2 bolts in the front of the front clip were hard to get anything on, so we just cut them. I may end up having to put the cab on by myself, I think I've got that one figured out. I definitely need some longer timbers, lol!
I had to get the cab pretty high in the air in order to clear the front shock mounts, and the blocks had to be far enough apart to allow the frame to roll under.
I put these rims on with no tires so I didnt have to go any higher.
Rolled it under the cab, raised the frame up to it, and sat it all down.
I put the motor in it, but there is interference between the oil filter and the front driveshaft. ==doh I'll have to use the oil filter set-up from a 4wd engine. The motor is leanin back a bit, but it won't clear and must be changed.
do you need a 4wd adapter? i have on, and ill be up in saginaw on friday, if ya need it
hey marty looks like its goin good! if you decided to get rid of the cab/front clip, let me know...i might want it. i'm gonna have to do something with the cab of my truck after this year.
Looks good.
I want that front Bumper off the Std Cab parts truck.
looks like a lot of work, but looks good
Front clip on it now.. hood is on it also
nice work man
great job marty, i hate to see you let it go after all that work...
Quote from: professional grade on September 05, 2010, 11:38:18 PM
great job marty, i hate to see you let it go after all that work...
You know what Chad, youre right. Ive decided to finish this truck. I sold the motor out of it for a K5 Blazer body, so I'm goin to put the powertrain out of the grey truck in it and part the grey truck out. That will be my tow rig for the K5 Blazer.
Quote from: old school truck dude on September 28, 2010, 12:11:53 AM
Quote from: professional grade on September 05, 2010, 11:38:18 PM
great job marty, i hate to see you let it go after all that work...
You know what Chad, youre right. Ive decided to finish this truck. I sold the motor out of it for a K5 Blazer body, so I'm goin to put the powertrain out of the grey truck in it and part the grey truck out. That will be my tow rig for the K5 Blazer.
Glad to hear it marty!
Took this pic yesterday, gettin warmer out, bout ready to get goin on this thing again. Next is a 3" body lift ;D
you still milkin' this job Marty? Man..... J/K I have gotten almost nothing done on my truck recently.
Its been mighty cold out, and I been mighty poor here lately, lmao ;D
good job ++peace
nice job
Ok, Im on it now, pullin parts to get this thing goin. The yard is too wet to work in without messin up the lawn where its at, so gotta wait to install the motor, trans, and tcase for just a bit till it dries out. ++peace ==wgm
Im not real sure what all I gotta have of that harness, buncha wires comin out the firewall.. ==duh
I got all the major pieces pulled and am cleanin them up now, they had mud all over ==doh
Put my rims and tires on there, looks a little better ;D
Thumbs up!
Just about done scrappin out the donor truck, geez what a friggin mess... ;D
The donor truck took a parting shot at me today.. I was tryin to remove the sway bar and my socket popped and split in two, one piece hit my lower front tooth and chipped the corner of it!!
Quote from: old school truck dude on April 15, 2011, 02:35:48 AM
The donor truck took a parting shot at me today.. I was tryin to remove the sway bar and my socket popped and split in two, one piece hit my lower front tooth and chipped the corner of it!!
sounds like a sucker punch....... ==pissed :P
Yup.. I wanted to hit it but I didnt.. ==pissed ==doh ;D
And the motor is in it, trans and tcase to follow soon ;D
very cool project ;D
Ive been goofin off alot, need to get this done so I can hit some trails! ;D
looking good
And now the trans, tcase, and the rear driveshaft is in it. Many thanks to Chevy studz on that shaft, its a perfect fit! ;D
Did you get that frame from hooper's? If so I know who's frame that use to be if it was a gray like color
It was purple loll Came from Krump John Deere..? Now that the body is on it, I notice it sits a bit higher than some, not real sure whats up with that, but its definitely a good thing! ;D
Ok, I gave it a 3" suspension lift by unloading all the junk and scrap out of it, mustve been enough crap in there to build 3 trucks, geez! Ive moved and its in a real garage now with a CONCRETE FLOOR (holy crap, what a concept) and BIG FRANK is the guy that got it here for me, awesome dude right there! Many thanks to him! applaudd Just as soon as I get a few more things fixed in the house, I will be gettin this long-winded project runnin and hit some holes and trails, woohoo! ;D ==wgm
nice swap
Ive hit a financial stumblin block and havent had any money to finish this with. I need brake and fuel lines, exhaust gaskets, and some knick knack items here and there to finish it, man I hate bein broke! ;D
I got me some exhaust gaskets and studs, maybe I can change the studs without screwin up, I do have torch gas now.. 8)
==hmmm
Gettin pretty close, got the manifolds fixed up and on there, y-pipe is in it, gotta get some more acytelene so I can weld the rest of the pipe together, then its all about fuel and brake lines and checkin every single bolt on it for tightness. ;D
Quote from: old school truck dude on October 24, 2011, 09:48:57 PM
Gettin pretty close, got the manifolds fixed up and on there, y-pipe is in it, gotta get some more acytelene so I can weld the rest of the pipe together, then its all about fuel and brake lines and checkin every single bolt on it for tightness. ;D
ahhh, that baby will let you know if you have loose bolts as soon as you pull out on the street loll
Ive decided to turn loose of the blazer frame project as Im short on cash and really want to focus on this truck right here, its gettin close to done. Hopefully I can get another bogger type soon, but I want the whole thing together, dont wanna have to look for every single thing that goes to it loll
Quote from: ProGrade on May 25, 2010, 01:03:32 PM
curious to see how this goes. Good Luck!
Very slowly is how it goes ==roll
==hmmm ==duh ==help ==roll I do believe I have run into a situation with the wiring of this thing. The 2wd cab "appears" to have some connectors that do not match up with the 91 4wd motor. I never wouldve thought there would be any difference! ==roll I say appears because I could very well just be lookin at things wrong or cross-eyed loll but it seems like somethin aint right, and Im not real sure how to proceed. I DID save the complete engine wiring harness and computer from the 91, the cab Im usin is a 90 2wd. I had the thought to just throw the 91 4wd harness on it, but who knows if the pins are lined up anywhere similar on the 2 bulkheads where they go through the firewall on the drivers side. Could short it all out and burn the truck down, ya know. Im pretty sure the 91 4wd harness will not work as the part where the computer wires go through the firewall on the passenger side - that plastic grommet thing - its completely different. Im tryin not to do a "hack job" on this, the theory was to make my truck into an ext cab 4x4 and spend as little as possible. I do have a 1976 350 carb motor sittin on a stand complete and ready to rock, that would solve the problem but Id prefer to have the TBI in it as thats whats supposed to be in there. I do realize I will need to add in a circuit to activate the front axle, no big deal there, but should I go to the junkyard and get 2wd sensors or will it still be different.. ==dunno
Quote from: old school truck dude on September 28, 2010, 12:11:53 AM
Quote from: professional grade on September 05, 2010, 11:38:18 PM
great job marty, i hate to see you let it go after all that work...
You know what Chad, youre right. Ive decided to finish this truck. I sold the motor out of it for a K5 Blazer body, so I'm goin to put the powertrain out of the grey truck in it and part the grey truck out. That will be my tow rig for the K5 Blazer.
MAJOR SCREW-UP RIGHT HERE, SHOULDVE LEFT THAT 2WD MOTOR IN THERE!!! JUST SEEN IT THE OTHER DAY AND IT STILL RUNS GOOD!! LESSON LEARNED. I decided to not fool with the body lift just yet as Im short on cash and I dont have the metric bolts it requires, I have a set of standard bolts for a 73-87. Gotta go buy metric bolts and either bumper brackets or make some bumpers, so that will have to wait.
Because I sold quite a few parts off the 91 and then scrapped the rest along with the 2wd stuff that I didnt need anymore, the truck is actually payin me to do this job, Im a couple hundred ahead and have a 4wd ext cab but it dont run cuz Ive got the wiring all screwed up ==lmaoo
Can you get pics of those connectors ? You have me curious as to what is going on with them.
I sure can, Ill have some on here tomorrow evening
Could be like my s10... buncha extra wires everywhere for options my truck didnt come with. GM just threw a harness in there that covered everything that could have got ordered I guess ==roll
Ok, didnt end up bein near as bad as what I thought.. Many thanks to Toughbowtietruck, he's right on target. The tps was the connector that was screwin me up, so I cut it off and put the right one on there from the 91 4x4 harness and now all thats left is replace the coolant sensor because it got smashed and the temp sensor because its wrong, no problem. It should run after that, gotta get some more fuel line, brake line, and some knick-knack junk. Still got alot of little stuff to take care of..
Quote from: old school truck dude on January 10, 2012, 10:44:38 PM
Ok, didnt end up bein near as bad as what I thought.. Many thanks to Toughbowtietruck, he's right on target. The tps was the connector that was screwin me up, so I cut it off and put the right one on there from the 91 4x4 harness and now all thats left is replace the coolant sensor because it got smashed and the temp sensor because its wrong, no problem. It should run after that, gotta get some more fuel line, brake line, and some knick-knack junk. Still got alot of little stuff to take care of..
whatcha waitin for?
MONEY!! That little stuff is expensive to me, Im just a janitor ==roll
Oh yeah, that stuff...
And now I'm unemployed, sux cuz I got all kinds of time to spend on it but no money! ==censor
THINGS LEFT TO DO:
1) Cut hole in the floor for tcase shifter
2) Fuel lines
3) Brake lines
4) Master cylinder
5) Body lift
6) Cab corners and rocker panels
7) Wire up front axle
And 957 other little things that Im not thinkin of at the moment!
I have a cb and radio to install, doors need put together, geez the list just goes on and on. It has a nice cloth interior and I wanted it all to match so I had to change the entire guts of the doors because the handles mounted differently.
Ive been out here tinkerin on this thing, its amazing how much there is left to do ==roll
I finally got some $$ and got brake lines and fuel lines to put on it now, got the little fitting to go on the intake cuz I really dont care for that long curved pipe stuck in a piece of plastic, thats dumb, dont know or care why they made it like that but its fixed.. its fightin me all the way, right rear is locked up again so gotta get in there at the adjuster to get the drum off ;D ==np
Well, I got it to fire off on ether but the fuel pump dont wanna work so gonna have to drop the tank and have a look, it does have juice to it but pump dont come on ==hmmm
if its an electic pump in the tank my step dad showed me a trick to hit the tank with something and have some one turn the key it worked for us many times
Quote from: BUDGETBOGGER03 on March 28, 2012, 11:22:22 PM
if its an electic pump in the tank my step dad showed me a trick to hit the tank with something and have some one turn the key it worked for us many times
==hmmm Its been settin up for awhile, that might just do the trick - Ill try it today ;D
Quote from: old school truck dude on March 29, 2012, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: BUDGETBOGGER03 on March 28, 2012, 11:22:22 PM
if its an electic pump in the tank my step dad showed me a trick to hit the tank with something and have some one turn the key it worked for us many times
==hmmm Its been settin up for awhile, that might just do the trick - Ill try it today ;D
did it work?
Will try it tomorrow, had to do a buncha other stuff today ;D
if ya end up needing a pump i got 2 used ones here ones from a s10 the other is from a full size 94
Quote from: BigFrank on March 31, 2012, 12:16:44 AM
if ya end up needing a pump i got 2 used ones here ones from a s10 the other is from a full size 94
Thanks, I still got 1 extra whole sendin unit and all from the 91, the tank leaked so I just saved the unit out of it, wrapped it up in plastic but who knows if its any good either ==roll
RUNS GOOD. Found a ground wire that wasnt hooked up. Lots more to do ;D yeahh ==rocks ==roxs ==roxx woho
yeahh
Bout got the motor buttoned up except I cant find the stupid fitting I just bought to replace the one on the back passenger side of the intake for the heater, Ive looked everywhere except for where it actually is, hope I didnt accidentally scrap it!! loll
Apparently I will need to extend the wires for the speed sensor to reach the tcase, I have no idea if it will even read correctly or not.. Anybody know one way or the other ???
Quote from: old school truck dude on April 04, 2012, 12:20:40 PM
Bout got the motor buttoned up except I cant find the stupid fitting I just bought to replace the one on the back passenger side of the intake for the heater, Ive looked everywhere except for where it actually is, hope I didnt accidentally scrap it!! loll
Apparently I will need to extend the wires for the speed sensor to reach the tcase, I have no idea if it will even read correctly or not.. Anybody know one way or the other ???
it should read correctly, I believe its and on/off sensor not a resistance reading.
It runs on a reluctor ring... dont extend any farther than you absolutly have to and keep the connections as clean and sealed as you can, maybe even use them connecters with the shrink wrap on them. Should work fine as long as you dont add to much to the circuit.
I figure to add about 1-1.5' to it, will that cause a problem?
should be ok... just use the same size wire. It is a on/off switch in a way I suppose. Just dont want to add too many ohms since its a 5v system running off the computer.
Ok, I see what youre sayin, Ill keep it pretty short then - thanks! ;D
Well it showed me just how important the ground wires are. It absolutely would not start until I cleaned up the engine to frame ground wire.. Would not pump fuel except for when it felt like like it which was the other day, not today loll Ran some brake lines and some other minor stuff, gettin closer ;D
Burned some rubber comin outta the shop under its own power woho
The lawn mower got ran over somehow, pics of the carnage comin soon loll
The right rear is draggin, gonna have to see whats wrong in there ==dunno Still a bunch of tweekin before its road and trail worthy ;D
Lotta space to crank up the torsion bars, looks like ;D
piss on the lawn lets fence it in and let some HOGS loose tell the neighbors its for 4 H lmao
Quote from: BigFrank on April 12, 2012, 01:17:41 AM
piss on the lawn lets fence it in and let some HOGS loose tell the neighbors its for 4 H lmao
==lmaoo
if they have any complaints give em my phone ###
About time. I remember seeing this thing in pieces at your old place.
Quote from: Chevy Racer on April 12, 2012, 01:21:10 AM
About time. I remember seeing this thing in pieces at your old place.
what he said, I remember helping you set the front clip on 2 years ago!
cut the tops off them bumpstops in the pic you showed... rides a hell of a lot better when torsions are cranked up!
Quote from: Eroq on April 12, 2012, 03:09:37 AM
cut the tops off them bumpstops in the pic you showed... rides a hell of a lot better when torsions are cranked up!
Copy the pic and draw an arrow at the part of it that I need to cut off plz.. Ive always thought they ride a little soft in the front
Quote from: ProGrade on April 12, 2012, 01:31:47 AM
Quote from: Chevy Racer on April 12, 2012, 01:21:10 AM
About time. I remember seeing this thing in pieces at your old place.
what he said, I remember helping you set the front clip on 2 years ago!
Thats what happens when ya move 4 times and never have heat in your garage, then when its warm enough to work ya got no money ==roll
I guess I need to cut the calipers off, theyre rusted solid and will not release unless I use a pry bar, then soon as I hit the brake pedal theyre locked up again, broke bolts and bleeders, geez ==doh
Ok, I got the brakes freed up so the truck can roll freely, unfortunately the master cylinder is shot along with the rear wheel cylinders - 1 leaks and the other has a broken bleeder.
Things left to do:
1) Get brakes done
2) Hang the exhaust system
3) Get body lift bolts and install body lift
4) Crank up torsion bars and level rear
5) Cut hole in floor and piece in the tcase shifter
6) Wire up front axle
7) TIRES!! I have nine 31s Id like to trade for a set of 33s!
gettin closer applaudd applaudd applaudd applaudd
Quote from: BigFrank on May 20, 2012, 11:46:25 AM
gettin closer applaudd applaudd applaudd applaudd
Yup, at least it can be driven now!!
Ok, got new master cylinder, wheel cylinders, and lines all the way from the pvalve in and it has brakes, gotta do the exhaust, wire up front end, and plate it again . I hope the front and rear are the same ratio.. Might not be.. ;D
Is this gonna be a DD or a off road toy?
Quote from: 7387chevynut on July 03, 2012, 11:18:17 PM
Is this gonna be a DD or a off road toy?
This will be a tow and trail rig. 1st comes the horse, then the cart, then the load. Its ext cab for the whole fam can wheel together is what I like, plus I shot my mouth off when it was given to me and said Id make it a 4wd and so I had to do this ==roll
almost there applaudd applaudd if the gears arent the same theres a bunch off those front diffs at the farm also a couple rear and i told ya i found a gm locker also ???
You're on the homestretch Marty!
wooooooooo!!!
Quote from: BigFrank on July 07, 2012, 12:30:06 PM
almost there applaudd applaudd if the gears arent the same theres a bunch off those front diffs at the farm also a couple rear and i told ya i found a gm locker also ???
I wanna look into that soon
Got the exhaust done 3" all the way to the back. Got the lights all workin, and it's plated and insured, this truck is street legal and I have been drivin it on the road!! woho woho woho woho woho woho woho woho
Next up is the goodies, compass, stereo, CB, etc.. Still hopin for a good deal on some tires.. Still need to cut a hole inthe floor and install the tcase shifter, also need to wire up the front axle. Not worried about doin that at the moment as I need it for a dd because the Lumina is down for the count. ;D
I need to take a moment to thank all the great GotMud? people that contributed to this build. It's been a long damn haul with alot of obstacles to overcome, but it's on the road finally, and I couldn't have done it without you guys!! ==thanks ==thanks ==thanks ==thanks ==wgm
O man. Time to find all the bugs you missed now. Hope you didn't have too many bolts left over. loll
Quote from: Chevy Racer on August 19, 2012, 02:03:41 PM
O man. Time to find all the bugs you missed now. Hope you didn't have too many bolts left over. loll
I have buckets full of stuff that I have absolutely no idea what it goes to ==roll
Trans acted strange last night, didnt wanna shift for about 5-10 minutes unless revved way up, then just worked perfect. Im thinkin the detent cable was stickin a little bit.
So it always helps to make sure everything is full. Here is this thing doin what it does best, keepin the guys there in a job!! I guess it needs a name now, any suggestions? Also, it will need the bodywork done and painted soon. Should I go dark blue or black? ;D
Lookin good
After a whole bunch of horsin around lookin for metric taps and beatin hell out of the driveshaft to get it to slide again, I got the 4wd workin on this thing here finally. I just put the front axle on a toggle switch.. It works and it appears the front and rear are the same gear ratio yeahh so now I need a set of shocks and cut a hole in the floor to mount the tcase shifter, find a nice rubber boot to go over it. ==dj gmcc
applaudd applaudd theres some shocks over here if they will work ya can have em ==np
Quote from: BigFrank on October 07, 2012, 12:24:26 PM
applaudd applaudd theres some shocks over here if they will work ya can have em ==np
I dont know what the shocks that go on there are supposed to look like, it has no shocks at all on it loll Do you know what yours came off of?
Shifter installation
Welded it in, had to replace the bushings on the linkage - the machine I used was not a very good one loll
looks like its welded to me. put the mat or carpet in can't see it.
Quote from: 4x4xdodgeman on February 03, 2013, 09:04:53 PM
looks like its welded to me. put the mat or carpet in can't see it.
Yup, carpet is back in it, havent took a pic of it yet, no boot to go on it..
Sweet!
Update, the 32s are much better tires - thanks Chris, it got attacked by a racoon and it ate a hole in the hood insulation ;D
Might have to turn this into a daily driver for a bit - my S10 needs an ignition module ==rant
Anybody know where to get cab corners and rocker panels cheap? If I dont do them pretty soon I wont have a cab left! ==censor
Quote from: Eroq on April 12, 2012, 03:09:37 AM
cut the tops off them bumpstops in the pic you showed... rides a hell of a lot better when torsions are cranked up!
Soon as I get some gas in my torch bottles - movin forward with this project again
3" body lift almost done, gonna tweek the torsion bars up just a little bit more then add 2" blocks in the back to level it up.. I'm needing a big piece of steel for a bumper, the stock one looks dumb now.. I have a receiver hitch to go there too ;D
The upper and lower ball joints were shot, so Im puttin new in, what a nightmare the lowers are wow... I have a new set of shocks to go on in the morning, too I'll be goin to work in this thing on Monday, the good ole S10 is gone - pics comin soon ==wgm
Quote from: old school truck dude on August 19, 2012, 02:15:39 PM
Trans acted strange last night, didnt wanna shift for about 5-10 minutes unless revved way up, then just worked perfect. Im thinkin the detent cable was stickin a little bit.
I said this on August 12th, 2012. It's doing it again now that I have it running again. It winds up in 1st, slams into 2nd, then will not shift into 3rd or overdrive, and if you let off the gas it goes into nuetral. After about 10 minutes, it shifts normally through all the gears. What's wrong with this thing? It's full of good clean fluid.
Hmmm, doesnt do the transmission thing anymore..
Traded off for the Suburban ++peace
(16 months ago loll )