bought a 14 bolt ff over the summer, when dude dropped it off, told me the welds broke on spiders. so can i run it broke? can i put in a mini spool? puttin axels in next weekend. so need to know. wanna run the mini spool.
That probably aint a good idea, to run it broke.. Mite have a piece flyin around in there and it lock up on ya ;D
More than likely they welded the carrier to the spiders so swap it out for a full spool if you have the funds for it. or at least get another carrier and put the mini spool in it. Full spool is by far the strongest. Don't run it broke, thats just asking to tear something up.
dont have money for full spool.....will rewelding it b ok?
new carrier is also outta price range now......if thats the case ill get a diff axle
if its working fine drain the oil clean it out good and refil it, if the weld broke its floating around in there somewhere.
Quote from: Blazin40s on January 26, 2011, 10:01:56 PM
dont have money for full spool.....will rewelding it b ok?
Cant see why not, I know I would
the questions nobody has asked are: What exactly broke? How was it welded? and Have you even priced a spool? they are not much more than a mini spool.
what gears are in it ? have you seen what is broke yet ?
Weld some 1/2" x 2' grade 8 Bolts into the gutz it will hold up fine
Contact mudman see how much he would charge you to weld it... He has done three of ours and non of which ever broke again
if interested i have a 14ff gove lock carrer als u have to do is bolt your ring on and set up the r and p make me a fair offer and its yours
I dunno how to set up ring and pinion
if he says the welds broke i assume he means it's no longer a posi, better take the cover off and see what ya got. welding takes a little strength from hardened parts, you might be missing a spider gear...or worse. hopefully you didnt buy a broken rear-end, and if its welded already forget about a mini-spool. welded is permanent
Re-Weld it & you have a Grande' Spool
Quote from: Blazin40s on January 27, 2011, 12:05:34 PM
I dunno how to set up ring and pinion
setting up the ring and pinion is EXTREMELY simple in the 14bolt! Last one i did i got it within .005" without gear paint or a dial indicator Finally GM did something right in a rear end, maybe thats why they still use them today and for the last like 40 yrs!
Can't be extremly simple if u never done it before, I've never even pulled a carrier before lol. Do u gotta pull the shafts out a bit to get it out?
The dude I got it from did give me money off tho. So he was honest
to pull shafts outta rear its eight bolts per side at hub area right?
yup 8 bolts each side, 3/4" size Keep in mind when y ou pull the shafts, they are different lengths left and right ==wgm
This oughta help!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/14b_bible/index.html (http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/14b_bible/index.html)
After lookin at some pics on that pirate 4x4 link, I'm wondering if I was sold a drw axle. How long should the hub part be that sticks out? I mean the part with the 8 bolts u take out to get out shaft. How long should they stick out past where rim would rest against lug nuts on a SRW?
i know theres a bout a 3 inch differance in hub lenght between a 73 3/4 ton ff14 bolt and the 79 1 ton dually ff 14 bolt i just picked up.. i also found the 1 ton spring perches are closer togather.. not sure if that helps ya.. just what ive seen..
GotMud?
The difference isnt so much in years as it is between dually and 1-ton..
Im trippin, I looked again, and I deff have a srw axle
if your shims are ok then you will be ok, REMEMBER ANYTHING you take out you have to put back. The housing has been shimed, so keep everything in order and pull the guts make sure you keep everything in the same spots do not mix up the shims. Old timers did it this way, what do you do about the pinion feal it (tighten it feal it and adjust) My dad still rebuilds rearends this way and this is how he told me to do it! and his dad and his dad so IKNOW IT WORKS! NO BS
Re welded and all good!
Sent some to mud duck to post in my project thread.....project big loud!
then weld it again to make sure she dont ruin your day and weld it alot more to!
I had a buddy weld it for me, he's donr a bumch of them. He baked it in a propane oven for a few hours b4 he welded it.... its welded real good! Hopefully lol!