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Title: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: MUDFINDER on April 06, 2011, 01:58:45 PM
Im trying to break down my 40 gumbos off the rims they are currently on.  ive been using a bumper jack and on the last 2 tires they wont break off the bead. i have the whole front of my truck off the ground and it still wont come off.      Does any one have any other tricks or tip to breaking them down?
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: dirtydog on April 06, 2011, 02:22:38 PM
run them over ,but dont  catch the rim, may use a board as a ramp on the tire or steel. there a few ways of doing it, but its hard work either way
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: old school truck dude on April 06, 2011, 02:33:25 PM
Works pretty good loll
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: J.C. on April 06, 2011, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: old school truck dude on April 06, 2011, 02:33:25 PM
Works pretty good loll

sometimes. i had a set of 33s that i ended up having to cut off with a sawzall. that was a pain!
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: Blazin40s on April 06, 2011, 02:37:55 PM
Yep...run it over
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: MR NASTY on April 06, 2011, 03:14:56 PM
Use a hammer and a chisel around the bead. Air hammer works best
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: BIG TODD on April 06, 2011, 03:17:18 PM
yup put a board on the edge of the tire and pull up on it works for me
Quote from: Blazin40s on April 06, 2011, 02:37:55 PM
Yep...run it over
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: ProGrade on April 06, 2011, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: Le Dude on April 06, 2011, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: old school truck dude on April 06, 2011, 02:33:25 PM
Works pretty good loll

sometimes. i had a set of 33s that i ended up having to cut off with a sawzall. that was a pain!
I actually had the bead rip apart once doing this, the rubber was still stuck to the rim.
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: buddman (AKA Mick) on April 06, 2011, 05:01:19 PM
Sent you a PM
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: redneck ohearn on April 07, 2011, 12:49:16 AM
my dad bought one of these to do tractor tires on the farm and they work great and saves time

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bead-Cheata-Tire-Bead-Breaker-Tool-Speeco-Part-05500-/300448423545?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f41f1e79 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Bead-Cheata-Tire-Bead-Breaker-Tool-Speeco-Part-05500-/300448423545?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f41f1e79)
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: Flat_Black on April 07, 2011, 01:14:08 AM
bp blaster and a duckbill sledge hammer. works great
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: Chevy Racer on April 07, 2011, 01:14:59 AM
Quote from: Flat_Black on April 07, 2011, 01:14:08 AM
bp blaster and a duckbill sledge hammer. works great

And in 5 swings your crying  " O my back....I think I hurt my liver......"  LOL
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: hot rod heep on April 07, 2011, 04:05:22 AM
i use the loader  bucket of the case 580  back hoe    or the 3 point box blade with down presher
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: old school truck dude on April 07, 2011, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: Flat_Black on April 07, 2011, 01:14:08 AM
bp blaster and a duckbill sledge hammer. works great

Yup, thats the ticket right there..
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: RedneckMudder on April 08, 2011, 03:49:29 AM
dump some mineral spirits around the bead its softens the rubber up works awesome ask Trent on here we did it to his tires this winter
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: woody11769 on April 08, 2011, 04:33:33 AM
we use my trailer ramp and drive up on it with a truck works great then break out the crobars
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: RedneckMudder on April 08, 2011, 01:07:36 PM
ive seen them a few times that driving on to them doesnt work
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: old school truck dude on April 08, 2011, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: RedneckMudder on April 08, 2011, 01:07:36 PM
ive seen them a few times that driving on to them doesnt work

Yup, had a couple that had to be carried to the co-op and be pressed off.. And sawz-alled off like Le Dude was sayin, but this works most of the time loll
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: MUDFINDER on April 10, 2011, 02:40:25 AM
driving on them didnt work. but we did get them off today thanks for your help guys.
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: Chevy Racer on April 10, 2011, 02:52:19 AM
Quote from: Flat_Black on April 07, 2011, 01:14:08 AM
bp blaster and a duckbill sledge hammer. works great

^^^^Has now taken to using the front loaded bucket so he stopped crying about his back so much.  LOL
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: BUDGETBOGGER03 on April 11, 2011, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: dirtydog on April 06, 2011, 02:22:38 PM
run them over ,but dont  catch the rim, may use a board as a ramp on the tire or steel. there a few ways of doing it, but its hard work either way
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: BAD APPLE on April 18, 2011, 01:26:34 AM
long slide hammer with a tire spoon on the end to get under the lip of the rim, or for tractor tires use a special mechanical wedge that u use an impact to drive in, its pretty easy if u have access to the tools, my dad is a farm tire repair man so its easy to do if u where closer i would have done them cheap
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: RIP_K52007 on April 18, 2011, 05:00:44 AM
I do not suggest this method, it does not work. ==roll

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167732_490394508357_632183357_6063177_6828175_n.jpg)


and sometimes running them over dont work, you can try two trucks and sometimes that still dont work...

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166185_490394843357_632183357_6063185_6793668_n.jpg)

so basicly... ==goodluck
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: Jjay78 on April 18, 2011, 05:08:33 AM
discount tire....... i call it my back saver lol
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: RIP_K52007 on April 18, 2011, 05:12:21 AM
Quote from: Jjay78 on April 18, 2011, 05:08:33 AM
discount tire....... i call it my back saver lol
oh gee thanks. ==doh

-- The discount tire employee

Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: rangerwheelinmike on April 18, 2011, 05:16:49 AM
that same tire we was doing in the pic discount couldent brake the bead on it
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: RIP_K52007 on April 18, 2011, 05:27:32 AM
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on April 18, 2011, 05:16:49 AM
that same tire we was doing in the pic discount couldent brake the bead on it
I wasnt at work ==roll
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: Colorado on April 18, 2011, 08:08:53 AM
Quote from: MUDFINDER on April 10, 2011, 02:40:25 AM
driving on them didnt work. but we did get them off today thanks for your help guys.
I had a lowboy with the valve core removed, ran it over with the dd and nothing. The darn thing acted like it was holding pressure too!  ==pissed

Quote from: lilred on April 18, 2011, 05:12:21 AM
Quote from: Jjay78 on April 18, 2011, 05:08:33 AM
discount tire....... i call it my back saver lol
oh gee thanks. ==doh

-- The discount tire employee


That's f'ing hilarious and so is the pic with TWO trucks on it above!!
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: millser on April 18, 2011, 10:37:22 AM
i use our hoist with a car or truck on it works great
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: 7d9_z28 on April 18, 2011, 11:07:46 AM
we used an air grinder once. very messy, very nasty. very difficult. but it did work! 2x4 and a truck usually works pretty good, but maybe soak the beads in some WD or something for a couple days
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: old school truck dude on April 18, 2011, 02:29:35 PM
The duckbill sledge, PB blast. It NEVER fails. Just gotta keep hittin it. Plenty of lube and use the right angle, it WILL come apart. Ive pounded on some off and on for several days, it will come apart sooner or later. ;D
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: mudbillyredneck on April 18, 2011, 08:05:41 PM
I use a high lift farm style jack

lay the tire down and use the bumper of the truck and the jack , has worked on everything from a 33" to  44" ...only ever had 2 tires give me a struggle
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: RIP_K52007 on April 18, 2011, 11:47:25 PM
Quote from: MUDFINDER on April 06, 2011, 01:58:45 PM
Im trying to break down my 40 gumbos off the rims they are currently on. ive been using a bumper jack and on the last 2 tires they wont break off the bead. i have the whole front of my truck off the ground and it still wont come off.      Does any one have any other tricks or tip to breaking them down?
Quote from: mudbillyredneck on April 18, 2011, 08:05:41 PM
I use a high lift farm style jack

lay the tire down and use the bumper of the truck and the jack , has worked on everything from a 33" to  44" ...only ever had 2 tires give me a struggle
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: old school truck dude on April 19, 2011, 12:46:03 AM
Quote from: old school truck dude on April 18, 2011, 02:29:35 PM
The duckbill sledge, PB blast. It NEVER fails. Just gotta keep hittin it. Plenty of lube and use the right angle, it WILL come apart. Ive pounded on some off and on for several days, it will come apart sooner or later. ;D

Just keep hittin it loll Ive done thousands upon thousands of tires big and small, and NEVER had one I couldnt get apart sooner or later one way or the other, and most of them just needed hit a few more times than I felt like doin..I don't recommend this but you can soften the rubber if you pour gasoline around the bead and let it soak in, do that several times, but dont hit it with the hammer when its wet with gas because it can spark and start a fire. You have to let it dry or blow it dry with the air hose before you go back to hittin it or usin the jack or whatever, also make sure your hands or any other part of you dont have any gas on them or youll burn your head off. This is dangerous and use only as last resort!
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: Cannaert on April 19, 2011, 11:58:43 PM
I had two stock tires that I could not get off the rims, We tried everything you could think of and still. I ended up just regular taking them in and having the taken off cost like 10 bucks.   
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: old school truck dude on April 20, 2011, 02:43:11 AM
just use the gd screwdriver - there I said it, nobody has said it in a while loll
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: MUDFINDER on April 20, 2011, 03:46:25 AM
no worries they are already on there new rims
Title: Re: Breaking tire off bead?
Post by: cnoswalt78 on April 20, 2011, 06:09:07 AM
walmart has free dismounts, works good just gotta watch the idiots! but i couldnt get mine off and the tire shop took alot of time workin on it! the tire was non directional 1100x20 rollaround the date stamp said 195? year wow? and lots of rust but it came off, eventually. just gotta make my rims, as soon as I get a nice day, heck still gotta finish painting!