Another race with great shutdown area.................. applaudd
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh1YAtBsllc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh1YAtBsllc#ws)
==kk ouch ==kv
That had to hurt
If I remember right you had someone die at your race....so I don't think you can talk much.
==kv
is that Eagle? comment uncalled for up there. imo
im sure that the gas was stuck
Quote from: momsmotorsports on September 18, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Quote from: 4-play on September 18, 2012, 06:45:18 PM
If I remember right you had someone die at your race....so I don't think you can talk much.
Carbon monoxide poisoning while sleeping, keep the criticisms coming dumb ass. You are part of the problem, no solutions.
And spreading p00 on the Internet is? If your so worried about the tracks we race at, pickup a phone and call them. But then you don't even race so what's it matter to you.
Quote from: 4-play on September 18, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: momsmotorsports on September 18, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Quote from: 4-play on September 18, 2012, 06:45:18 PM
If I remember right you had someone die at your race....so I don't think you can talk much.
Carbon monoxide poisoning while sleeping, keep the criticisms coming dumb ass. You are part of the problem, no solutions.
And spreading p00 on the Internet is? If your so worried about the tracks we race at, pickup a phone and call them. But then you don't even race so what's it matter to you.
lol
Quote from: 4-play on September 18, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: momsmotorsports on September 18, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Quote from: 4-play on September 18, 2012, 06:45:18 PM
If I remember right you had someone die at your race....so I don't think you can talk much.
Carbon monoxide poisoning while sleeping, keep the criticisms coming dumb ass. You are part of the problem, no solutions.
And spreading p00 on the Internet is? If your so worried about the tracks we race at, pickup a phone and call them. But then you don't even race so what's it matter to you.
It is called creating awareness. An uniformed and innocent spectator will likely be the victim when your BDMT is out of control on an unsafe track. After 30 years of promoting mud racing, along with mud safety and rules our organization would like to distance ourselves from unsafe racers, promoters.
What if he had missed the bails, went into the parking lot, would he make a stop for cotton candy after killing some innocent by stander.
well if your trying to distance yourself from tracks -drivers and THE SPORT ITSELF coming on a a site like this is only going to stirr a p00 storm .didnt you group hold event @ same track last year ? I understand the safty issues but feel you going about it wrong . one of the best promoters in michigan is a RACER ! and trying to make difference.thats got a lot to do with the fastest trucks in mi running his events .just a thought
i love that bronco
Quote from: bigmud44 on September 18, 2012, 10:33:24 PM
.didnt you group hold event @ same track last year ?
No, that is false. Never at that track. This is the exact reason for distancing our organization from current unsafe tracks and promoters.
'Great' promoters, creating unsafe race venues for high more powered trucks is a recipe for disaster.
Make better track and safety standards, PERIOD.
Quote from: momsmotorsports on September 19, 2012, 12:21:12 AM
Quote from: bigmud44 on September 18, 2012, 10:33:24 PM
.didnt you group hold event @ same track last year ?
No, that is false. Never at that track. This is the exact reason for distancing our organization from current unsafe tracks and promoters.
'Great' promoters, creating unsafe race venues for high more powered trucks is a recipe for disaster.
Make better track and safety standards, PERIOD.
So your race is so much safer? Lets see your safety rules for your races. How much shutdown do you have at your track? A 4ft drop off at the end of your pit is not safe. I know a few trucks that almost flipped coming out the end. You can talk all you want but your rules and track is not any better.
i think with the amount of mishaps this year alone that anyone putting on these events will be second guessing safety issues for next year...fighting back and forth will get us nowhere when we should be putting our heads together for the best interest of our sport.
very well said... applaudd
Quote from: MR NASTY on September 19, 2012, 12:59:49 AM
i think with the amount of mishaps this year alone that anyone putting on these events will be second guessing safety issues for next year...fighting back and forth will get us nowhere when we should be putting our heads together for the best interest of our sport.
Second that.
Quote from: Bigdaddy on September 19, 2012, 01:27:07 AM
very well said... applauddQuote from: MR NASTY on September 19, 2012, 12:59:49 AM
i think with the amount of mishaps this year alone that anyone putting on these events will be second guessing safety issues for next year...fighting back and forth will get us nowhere when we should be putting our heads together for the best interest of our sport.
i was there all the other trucks stopped just fine. his throttle was stuck for sure. there isnt a whole lot you can do in that situation. and i think the shorter stop area means the truck will be less like likely to gain more speed in this type of situation. i dont race these things but to have a promotor like yourself get on a website ,that alot of racers are on ,just to try make another promotor look bad seems very unprofessional.
Quote from: BC775 on September 19, 2012, 03:50:08 AM
i was there all the other trucks stopped just fine. his throttle was stuck for sure. there isnt a whole lot you can do in that situation. and i think the shorter stop area means the truck will be less like likely to gain more speed in this type of situation. i dont race these things but to have a promotor like yourself get on a website ,that alot of racers are on ,just to try make another promotor look bad seems very unprofessional.
applaudd ==wgm
I dont go to eagel much but races have been held there for years and I know alot of guys that look forward to racing there ......in my opinion the track cant keep up with the wild crazy HP trucks today when it started I dont think people ever dreamed trucks would run like they do now
I think they can make any track safer by doing what every other racing league have done
nascar,nhra,indy,any dirt track racing,
Limit traction
take away cut tires make them run smaller tires
Quote from: fuzzy on September 19, 2012, 10:56:47 AM
I think they can make any track safer by doing what every other racing league have done
nascar,nhra,indy,any dirt track racing,
Limit traction
take away cut tires make them run smaller tires
ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. Good input. You are right, cut and paddle tires should not be bolted on these mud bog trucks in such small arenas.
Down south they are also installing catch fences at races with high power trucks, cut/tractor tires and jumps, they are thinking proactively down there.
Quote from: BC775 on September 19, 2012, 03:50:08 AM
i was there all the other trucks stopped just fine. his throttle was stuck for sure. there isnt a whole lot you can do in that situation. and i think the shorter stop area means the truck will be less like likely to gain more speed in this type of situation. i dont race these things but to have a promotor like yourself get on a website ,that alot of racers are on ,just to try make another promotor look bad seems very unprofessional.
If something looks wrong and you do not speak up. When that something does go wrong, you will wish you had spoken up. If publicizing poorly structured event grounds makes 'promoters' and racers think of the consequences and better their track set up, then the point got across.
No promoter was ever outed or even mentioned. Looks like a few guys are on the defensive.
Quote from: BC775 on September 19, 2012, 03:50:08 AM
i was there all the other trucks stopped just fine. his throttle was stuck for sure. there isnt a whole lot you can do in that situation. and i think the shorter stop area means the truck will be less like likely to gain more speed in this type of situation. i dont race these things but to have a promotor like yourself get on a website ,that alot of racers are on ,just to try make another promotor look bad seems very unprofessional.
Maybe they need a remote shut down like monsters trucks have, or make it so all trucks get the power killed 5-10 yards after the finish, then once the truck stops they can reset and fire back up and drive to the pits, of course that would require trucks to.run mechanical linkage steering no full hydraulic so they can stay in control
For those of you who do not know, momsmotorsports is a promoter of mud racing. Now, I think you are going about this the wrong way, posting on here and greatlakes4x4.com in a negative way that will only hurt the sport of mud running that you yourself are trying to promote and make safe. There are better ways to bring attention to the areas that are lacking safety. I may be wrong but this seems like a direct attack against those who compete in the West Michigan Mud Runs races. Maybe instead of bashing their race tracks and attacking the drivers you could contact Tim or Jason and talk about your concerns, or are they taking too much attention away from the runs you promote and hurting your bottom line? You should know that you are hurting the sport and you are not being proactive in making this a safer and bigger event for more people to enjoy. There are better ways to do this, acting childish is not one of them. Just my .02
applaudd I dont want the drama on my site moms motor sports, this is a friendly place, please be friendly or gonna have to delete you... this is a place to make friends, not a place to get bullschitt started. ==nodrama ==otd
Quote from: Unemployed Films on September 19, 2012, 01:58:56 PM
For those of you who do not know, momsmotorsports is a promoter of mud racing. Now, I think you are going about this the wrong way, posting on here and greatlakes4x4.com in a negative way that will only hurt the sport of mud running that you yourself are trying to promote and make safe. There are better ways to bring attention to the areas that are lacking safety. I may be wrong but this seems like a direct attack against those who compete in the West Michigan Mud Runs races. Maybe instead of bashing their race tracks and attacking the drivers you could contact Tim or Jason and talk about your concerns, or are they taking too much attention away from the runs you promote and hurting your bottom line? You should know that you are hurting the sport and you are not being proactive in making this a safer and bigger event for more people to enjoy. There are better ways to do this, acting childish is not one of them. Just my .02
Ouch
Quote from: michigan maniac on September 19, 2012, 01:11:13 PM
Quote from: BC775 on September 19, 2012, 03:50:08 AM
i was there all the other trucks stopped just fine. his throttle was stuck for sure. there isnt a whole lot you can do in that situation. and i think the shorter stop area means the truck will be less like likely to gain more speed in this type of situation. i dont race these things but to have a promotor like yourself get on a website ,that alot of racers are on ,just to try make another promotor look bad seems very unprofessional.
Maybe they need a remote shut down like monsters trucks have, or make it so all trucks get the power killed 5-10 yards after the finish, then once the truck stops they can reset and fire back up and drive to the pits, of course that would require trucks to.run mechanical linkage steering no full hydraulic so they can stay in control
i agree a remote shutdown would be one of the safest ways to go for sure. and the reason i say it was unprofessional to put this on the internet is because if you have a problem with his event maybe you should call him up and be like hey man i got an idea. not get on the internet and bash his program.
Quote from: Unemployed Films on September 19, 2012, 01:58:56 PM
For those of you who do not know, momsmotorsports is a promoter of mud racing. Now, I think you are going about this the wrong way, posting on here and greatlakes4x4.com in a negative way that will only hurt the sport of mud running that you yourself are trying to promote and make safe. There are better ways to bring attention to the areas that are lacking safety. I may be wrong but this seems like a direct attack against those who compete in the West Michigan Mud Runs races. Maybe instead of bashing their race tracks and attacking the drivers you could contact Tim or Jason and talk about your concerns, or are they taking too much attention away from the runs you promote and hurting your bottom line? You should know that you are hurting the sport and you are not being proactive in making this a safer and bigger event for more people to enjoy. There are better ways to do this, acting childish is not one of them. Just my .02
Correction, was a promoter of mud racing. If publicizing poorly structured safety at events is going to hurt the sport. What is going to be the outcome when an innocent spectator dies. That will hurt the sport.
Those promoters were never mentioned. In fact videos have been posted at other unsafe venues as well, never mentioning any promoters.
Why make a call and waste my breath. If one accident after another doesn't get their attention what will.
Some of these tracks have been known to be unsafe for years. Putting more high powered trucks on them and the odds of something horrific happening are increasing exponentially.
Acting childish? A video with a one line tag.
Sure got everyone's attention. Race safe. I am done.
accidents have been happening in motorsports of all kinds since their beginning. unfortunately this is how we learn. there is a responsibility to everyone involved, from drivers to track builders to spectators. realistically we all know what is safe and what is not. it is up to us all to work together to improve and preserve this sport we love.
Quote from: sdsmas1 on September 20, 2012, 03:43:14 PM
accidents have been happening in motorsports of all kinds since their beginning. unfortunately this is how we learn. there is a responsibility to everyone involved, from drivers to track builders to spectators. realistically we all know what is safe and what is not. it is up to us all to work together to improve and preserve this sport we love.
well said
Quote from: 85cHeavyMetalBogger on September 20, 2012, 07:00:50 PM
Quote from: sdsmas1 on September 20, 2012, 03:43:14 PM
accidents have been happening in motorsports of all kinds since their beginning. unfortunately this is how we learn. there is a responsibility to everyone involved, from drivers to track builders to spectators. realistically we all know what is safe and what is not. it is up to us all to work together to improve and preserve this sport we love.
well said
x2
sonuds like somone needs more trucks at there events
If "they" have a short shut down area....."they" should take away some tire from the racers .
Just saying , they take away traction in every other form of racing
if you take away the fast trucks or make them run different tires or limit motors you wont have a show and no one will show up.. things happen its a motor sport the same this could have happened if he had 33s you never know!
Looks like rick (mom's) is at it again
That group has always been shady dates way back into the 90's when mud racing was mud racing, dad uses to run the door slammer classes used to be really popular back then it always seemed like there members would always get the better draw in the line up or would alway have faster times than any one else then u would compete against them at someone's else's event and they would get their doors blown off. Or protest that someone was cheating, because they were getting beat when it turns out that they were the ones cheating got to the point were dad said F it and never went back