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Title: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 02:31:24 AM
I've been doing a lot of thinking, and I want new rubbers. Right now I have (4) 40" hawgs

But here was my thought:

Buy (2) 40" boggers, cut them and put them in the rear. Use (2) hawgs up front and cut them like V treads

Here's how I'd cut them

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w402/J_Thomas123/4FDCA5BC-7022-4EE5-9B33-50F9190664AC-984-000000A4FD7F3EE3.jpg)

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w402/J_Thomas123/9E0F1CE5-CBF9-47A5-83FE-D9ABB092F9C8-984-000000A5022D2435.jpg)


I don't have the extra cash for 4 new boggers.  My hawgs got about 70% uncut life left

How well would they bite? Or what other tire combos would you recommend?
How much better would 4 boggers be?
What's the handling difference?

Overall, I'm just looking for feedback

Thanks
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: BIG DOG on March 04, 2013, 02:44:56 AM
first of all do you have enough motor to spin 4  boggers  fast enough to let them work   .        and  you dont want to kill your front end  witch is what ?  also    i'm hopin not a 10 bolt or 44.  for boggers on stock shafts
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 02:47:17 AM
1 tons 4.88s

And yes. I got the motor
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 04, 2013, 02:51:12 AM
Cut hawgs would bite better then uncut,  but they don't compare to boggers, also keep in mind cut tires are illegal to drive down the road,  but if they are just for bogging you can cut the hawgs down fairly deep on the outside of the tire, the rubber is thicker there then in the middle where it is thin,  
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 02:54:08 AM
Would cutting them into V treads give me any "steering" in the mud?
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 04, 2013, 02:59:16 AM
Quote from: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 02:54:08 AM
Would cutting them into V treads give me any "steering" in the mud?

I could steer with my cut hawgs, they were cut into v treads, but most people say they stuck for steering
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 03:01:46 AM
Better steering than 4 boggers?
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 04, 2013, 03:04:55 AM
I think.boggers would be better, should cut your hawgs like these and just rip straight lines lol http://wegotmud.com/forum/index.php?topic=82213.0 (http://wegotmud.com/forum/index.php?topic=82213.0)
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 03:10:08 AM
Lol, I see a lot of mud rails with the V tread and scoop rear combo. And they go pretty straight.  But I figured it would turn also? Some events have turns, that's why I ask.
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 04, 2013, 03:21:50 AM
Yeah that's why a lot of guys like the tsl/bogger combo to get some better steering, if you want to steer good you need a narrower tire to cut through the mud, or like a tsl that has longer lugs placed sideways in the center, but if you ask me your only gonna steer as good as the mud will let you
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 04:00:35 AM
I could stay with the 15x10 rim up front. And a 15x15 rim in rear?
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 04, 2013, 02:09:04 PM
Are you gonna run comps or just backyard bogs? 
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: betterbeaters on March 04, 2013, 02:47:34 PM
go with tsl front bogger rear it works the best for everything steering, driving, and just looking good lol   I have run a few sets of hawgs they really are not that great even cut boggers hook and break parts lol tsl are very forgiving and steer great one of the best.  also iroks are great tires they have centers like a tsl and the outer lugs have small scoops like a bogger I loved the set I had mabye you could look for 4 iroks?
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 03:49:04 PM
Quote from: michigan maniac on March 04, 2013, 02:09:04 PM
Are you gonna run comps or just backyard bogs? 

Both
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: betterbeaters on March 04, 2013, 02:47:34 PM
go with tsl front bogger rear it works the best for everything steering, driving, and just looking good lol   I have run a few sets of hawgs they really are not that great even cut boggers hook and break parts lol tsl are very forgiving and steer great one of the best.  also iroks are great tires they have centers like a tsl and the outer lugs have small scoops like a bogger I loved the set I had mabye you could look for 4 iroks?

How much would it run me $ for (2) tsl's and (2) NEW boggers. I don't  care is the tsl's are used.
And what would it run me for (4) of the iroks you speek of?
What are hawgs even worth with aluminum rims?
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
I guess I could keep the hawgs and use them as road slicks
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: betterbeaters on March 04, 2013, 04:16:10 PM
i dont sell tires so I dont know the prices but i bet you can find them used for a good price? lol and iroks are made my interco just like boggers and tsl look them up
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 04:33:17 PM
(2) 39.5" boggers $1,200
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 04, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
Quote from: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 04:33:17 PM
(2) 39.5" boggers $1,200

better off finding like new used ones, way cheaper
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Hammerlane on March 04, 2013, 05:14:37 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/hammerlane/truckcap008.jpg) (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/hammerlane/truckcap008.jpg)

39.5"
15" 8 lug wagons..

$1000 bill..
is a very good combo.
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 05:15:24 PM
Lol yeah.

Do I need 16.5s to clear one ton disks?
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Hammerlane on March 04, 2013, 05:16:58 PM
Nah.. grinding wheel.. an about 2 hrs labor.

thats how I cleared mine.
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 04, 2013, 05:24:22 PM
Or 15 inch rims with 2-2.5 inch backspace
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 05:36:00 PM
What tire set up do you guys run?  What you think of them?
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 05, 2013, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Jthomas on March 04, 2013, 05:36:00 PM
What tire set up do you guys run?  What you think of them?

Boggers and tractor tires
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: betterbeaters on March 05, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
ive ran alot! lol cut hawgs worked good cut bogger worked best 2 boggers 2 tsl works great when I needed to turn iroks works good for  everything I did. if you dont drive on the road and that blower motor runs 4 cut boggers would rock but a dana 60 would be a must lol
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 05, 2013, 01:05:16 AM
Yeah I'm doing 1 tons.  I still got a lot coming up for that build, as far as the suspension.

I may use the hawgs as road tires, and find a set of boggers for comps and play. But I want directional control in the mud



I don't have a trailer or tow vehicle, so I have to drive to events
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 05, 2013, 01:12:35 AM
Better invest in a trailer and tow rig as soon as you can, breaking and trying to fix it right away just to get home is gonna get old quick ! 
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 05, 2013, 01:15:15 AM
Yup that's for sure. Damn tires will cost me a car. And plus I'm not even done with the truck. Lol
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: 4x4xdodgeman on March 05, 2013, 03:33:47 AM
run boggers all the way around. don't wast time and $$$$ with tsl. boggers will turn in the mud.
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: mutt truck on March 05, 2013, 04:31:15 PM
Just me but I would work on the trailer and tow rig first... I've had to leave my rig stranded before when I used s tow bar and it sucks trying to get it all fixed up at someones property during the week away from your tools. Them u can worry about tires. Imo
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 05, 2013, 07:13:13 PM
Oh well.  Tires first, or else I'd have no reason to take it anywhere.  

I'll eventually figure somthing out. Till then, I'll keep driving.
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: betterbeaters on March 05, 2013, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: Jthomas on March 05, 2013, 07:13:13 PM
Oh well.  Tires first, or else I'd have no reason to take it anywhere. 

you have tires you dont have to have the best to play.. lol and its hard to play if you cant tow it anywhere lol I have been there
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 05, 2013, 07:27:06 PM
Lol. Yea I'll figure somthing out
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: mutt truck on March 06, 2013, 02:19:54 AM
My rig happened in stages... gota have the transport first then u can work on up grades, like better beaters said you may not have the best or what u want but it will get there. It just takes time my friend.
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 06, 2013, 02:40:14 AM
How much heavier would a 42" tractor be over a 42" bogger
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: BAD APPLE on March 06, 2013, 05:15:06 AM
I cut my hawgs like the second pic works good but befor this year starts I'm cuting out the front part of the lug and scooping them out to get a little more out if them they work good right now with out the centers if the bar. You cans kinda see in the third picture I cut a few of the lugs the way the hole tire will be when I'm done
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: Jthomas on March 06, 2013, 12:41:08 PM
That looks really nice, I'm still debating on going that route up front. I like the pattern.
Title: Re: Tire set up and cutting
Post by: michigan maniac on March 07, 2013, 12:37:09 AM
I ran 2 less cut up front and more cut out back

(http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l490/gregor214/IMAG0110.jpg) (http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l490/gregor214/IMAG0110.jpg)