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Title: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: BigFrank on February 12, 2014, 12:52:30 PM
got a few questions for someone who knows more about these engines than I do   what pumps will interchange and   ive seen on youtube a vid about putting a high idle switch hooked too the ecm will doing this effect anything else???
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: BigFrank on February 17, 2014, 01:00:01 PM
well I talked too one guy     he said ya know they make a 6.5  delete kit its called a 12 valve cummins   dead silence on the phone  then he started laughing at me  then after calming down he went on and on about all the bad things about  6.5s  and  that it would only cost around 3 to 4000.$$ too convert it  soo then I laughed and said  I don't even have that much money into the whole truck and it starts and runs strong soo why the hell would I change out a running engine  just too dump unburnt fuel into the air  dead silence again ok thanks for your time
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Post by: 4x4xdodgeman on February 17, 2014, 09:59:20 PM
I know this much on them do not run the plastic cover on the motor. it holds to much heat under it  makes the pump burn up
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: lilred on February 17, 2014, 10:02:30 PM
I know 2 things. They break starter bolts and I've only ever seen one run, which is now sitting with blown head gaskets I believe. ==dunno

try http://www.dieselplace.com/  they were very informative about my 6.2
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: BigFrank on February 17, 2014, 10:17:48 PM
thanks guys  I haven't had any starter issues  soo far  knock on wood/head iknow these aernt considered a performance engine by any means   biggest question is that  I have 3 inj pumps here and wanted too know if theres any differences in them   and this truck is a f code too the vin and that means theres no egr on it and supposivly 10 to 15 hp more than the engines with a egr  and also the ecms are different   the high idle switch thing would be nice soo I don't have too jab the throttle and the thing gets all jumpy and stuff or at least  would like too change out the drive by wire system too  a pump with the cable too run it   keep in mind being a 94 its the newest truck ive owned lmao
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: Chevy Racer on February 17, 2014, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: lilred on February 17, 2014, 10:02:30 PM
I know 2 things. They break starter bolts and I've only ever seen one run, which is now sitting with blown head gaskets I believe. ==dunno

try http://www.dieselplace.com/  they were very informative about my 6.2

Its actually sitting at BigFranks place now......  I miss it.
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: lilred on February 17, 2014, 10:23:45 PM
oh. Yeah I know how that goes. I had a sweet red half ton with a 5 speed. Miss it. ==roll
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: michigan maniac on February 17, 2014, 11:13:52 PM
Starter bolts mainly brake if the extra support braket is left off the front of the starter,  not sure on the high idle switch, but why do you need it? Running a pump or winch? Or just for cold starts?  Mainly what I can see is it fooling the computer, shouldn't cause harm
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: 4x4xdodgeman on February 19, 2014, 09:03:15 PM
precision diesel 517-694-1522 holt mi.
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Post by: 4x4xdodgeman on February 19, 2014, 09:05:50 PM
should put in the post. they rebuild pumps and injectors
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Post by: camok10 on February 26, 2014, 05:06:00 AM
Quote from: 4x4xdodgeman on February 19, 2014, 09:03:15 PM
precision diesel 517-694-1522 holt mi.

I'm not sure if it was just me but I had terrible service with them.also they have moved to mason right next to spartan speedway.  I've had much better luck with diesel equipment out of potterville. They also won't laugh at you for having a 6.2 or 6.5 and will help you out with your pumps. They usually have pumps ready to go and will set the flow to what you have done to your motor.
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: Walther on March 07, 2014, 03:43:54 AM
Diesel fuel injections in bay city is a 6.5 guru can't remember the number tho
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: BigFrank on March 07, 2014, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: michigan maniac on February 17, 2014, 11:13:52 PM
Starter bolts mainly brake if the extra support braket is left off the front of the starter,  not sure on the high idle switch, but why do you need it? Running a pump or winch? Or just for cold starts?  Mainly what I can see is it fooling the computer, shouldn't cause harm
getting tired of knocking the trailer off the jack block when yer 3 inches away and the thing jumps a foot that's why I was thinking about the high idle switch
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: page69 on March 07, 2014, 10:15:07 PM
dirty hooker diesel in harbor beach them guys are bad ass the did one of my friends t300 kenworth and it runs sweet they do some awesome work on all them diesel motors they redo the ecms all the computer stuff right in house
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: michigan maniac on March 08, 2014, 03:15:17 AM
Quote from: BigFrank on March 07, 2014, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: michigan maniac on February 17, 2014, 11:13:52 PM
Starter bolts mainly brake if the extra support braket is left off the front of the starter,  not sure on the high idle switch, but why do you need it? Running a pump or winch? Or just for cold starts?  Mainly what I can see is it fooling the computer, shouldn't cause harm
getting tired of knocking the trailer off the jack block when yer 3 inches away and the thing jumps a foot that's why I was thinking about the high idle switch


Hhmm never had that issue with my 6.5
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: BigFrank on March 08, 2014, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: page69 on March 07, 2014, 10:15:07 PM
dirty hooker diesel in harbor beach them guys are bad ass the did one of my friends t300 kenworth and it runs sweet they do some awesome work on all them diesel motors they redo the ecms all the computer stuff right in house
talked with them   
Quote from: michigan maniac on March 08, 2014, 03:15:17 AM
Quote from: BigFrank on March 07, 2014, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: michigan maniac on February 17, 2014, 11:13:52 PM
Starter bolts mainly brake if the extra support braket is left off the front of the starter,  not sure on the high idle switch, but why do you need it? Running a pump or winch? Or just for cold starts?  Mainly what I can see is it fooling the computer, shouldn't cause harm
getting tired of knocking the trailer off the jack block when yer 3 inches away and the thing jumps a foot that's why I was thinking about the high idle switch


Hhmm never had that issue with my 6.5
does yours have a throttle cable/petal or the electronic?
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: michigan maniac on March 08, 2014, 03:15:53 PM
I don't remember, I traded the truck for a jeep this winter after I got my new truck,  but I believe it was electronic, I cent recall seeing a throttle cable
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: BigFrank on March 09, 2014, 01:59:15 AM
mine is probably the tps  being out of adjustment  but  judging by the amount of oil coming from the vent thing there in the valve cover its not long for this world soo im not going too bother with it   ;D
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Post by: J.C. on March 09, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
TPS should be set at 5.0v. At least that's what my 93 with mechanical injection needed.
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: BigFrank on March 23, 2014, 08:13:59 PM
tps is set properly  and since  I had the dash taken apart too change the heater controller 2 times  I hooked up the a-6 wire too the ecm too the cargo light switch and it worked about doubles the rpm at idle  ive driven a few  trucks with the electric throttle control both gas and diesel this one seems too be jumpy on the pedal ??? don't know why  but on another note the vent thing in the valve cover was stuck  shut making the engine /crankcase not vent   or vent threw the dipstick  put the one from chevyracer's truck and see what happens  ==badh
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Post by: fordrunner on March 23, 2014, 09:17:20 PM
The 94 I had to drive for a land scape company was jumpy to I hated that truck. Ended up getting it hot pulling a trailer and burned her up. So he bought a 93 motor and that was a mechanical pump so we had to put the 94 eletrice pump on it. Never did get the jumping out of it.
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: michigan maniac on March 24, 2014, 01:35:18 AM
Put a # 9 resistor in it and let it rip!!
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: camok10 on March 24, 2014, 04:38:11 AM
Quote from: michigan maniac on March 24, 2014, 01:35:18 AM
Put a # 9 resistor in it and let it rip!!

This one!
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: BigFrank on March 24, 2014, 09:30:06 AM
pmd was relocated when I got it  ive tried  2 other pmds with no change   what does the resistor doo ???
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: michigan maniac on March 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Adds more fuel for more power, and I've heard if you stay out of the throttle better mph
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: freerev on March 25, 2014, 01:18:00 AM
you need a pump for a 94 to 2000. sounds like thats your problem. i had the same issue with 2 of my 6.5s new pump and pdm with a relocation kit and a #2 resistor fixed both of them. i did my 2000 at 98000 it now has 345000 with no problems
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: BigFrank on March 25, 2014, 01:23:24 AM
Quote from: michigan maniac on March 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Adds more fuel for more power, and I've heard if you stay out of the throttle better mph
where doo ya put this resister
Title: Re: any 6.5 specialists guru or goofballs on here ???
Post by: camok10 on March 25, 2014, 07:30:14 AM
On the Pmd over two pins were the wiring from the pump goes
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Post by: michigan maniac on March 25, 2014, 11:16:31 PM
Quote from: camok10 on March 25, 2014, 07:30:14 AM
On the Pmd over two pins were the wiring from the pump goes

Yup, basically just slide it in the pmd connector, and connect the wiring back up good to go, it can take a few times starting for it to take effect also