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Title: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on February 19, 2014, 12:55:48 AM
Help! im on the fence about cutting my boogers never have run them cut before and would like some input for some of you guys that have.
Im just worried that once cut and if I dont like them theres no going back.
they are 35/16 boggers on a 67 cj5
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: michigan maniac on February 19, 2014, 01:28:22 AM
Since your not running a one ton front I would deff not cut the front, unless you like breaking axle shafts,  but cut boggers are awsome, If it was my jeep I would run them uncut, see how you like it, then cut the rear first, then if still want more bite cut the fronts and carry spare parts !!
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on February 19, 2014, 01:49:08 AM
Good point ya they would sure put some strain on that dana 44 dont want that, my biggest problem is they look awesome cut haha
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: marshall on February 19, 2014, 01:58:21 AM
I've never had the cajones to cut one of my boggers :(
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: marshall on February 19, 2014, 01:59:15 AM
You said boogers
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: Mudgrunt on February 19, 2014, 02:00:00 AM
We felt a huge difference when we cut the rears on the truck did not cut the fronts yet.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on February 19, 2014, 02:05:31 AM
sure did  :) maybe boogers are just uncut boggers, I know its hard to bit the bullet and cut a $400+ tire up
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: Bryank on February 19, 2014, 02:11:51 AM
Yeah cut 2 for the rear. They work way better. I cut mine brand new and am gonna use the cut rubber to make a floor mat for the garage :)
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on February 19, 2014, 02:18:41 AM
Bryan what did you use to cut yours
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: Rohde009 on February 19, 2014, 03:51:56 AM
I have a couple sets of cuts if you would like to try before you cut yours
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: michigan maniac on February 19, 2014, 12:42:07 PM
Quote from: Rohde009 on February 19, 2014, 03:51:56 AM
I have a couple sets of cuts if you would like to try before you cut yours

There ya go that's a great idea and a very nice gesture!!
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: michigan maniac on February 19, 2014, 12:47:31 PM
Quote from: cjbogger on February 19, 2014, 02:18:41 AM
Bryan what did you use to cut yours

I'm gonna cut my 44's this spring, I plan to use a cheap harbor freight oscillating saw
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: 4x4xdodgeman on February 19, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
I would try a set before cutting them. test them at the same spot. 
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: night train 2 on February 19, 2014, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: cjbogger on February 19, 2014, 12:55:48 AM
Help! im on the fence about cutting my boogers never have run them cut before and would like some input for some of you guys that have.
Im just worried that once cut and if I dont like them theres no going back.
they are 35/16 boggers on a 67 cj5

i,ve been running a set of cut 38.5s on the front of my s10 with a d44 and a mini spool with a trans brake for a couple years now and havent broke anything yet  but thats just in mud, amazon has tire groovers for $65 comes with a 3/8s head and 12 pack of blades a 3/4" head is $13 and 3/4" blades are $11.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: Rohde009 on February 19, 2014, 02:31:48 PM
Good chisel and a propane or map gas torch is what I used on first set worked great
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: Bryank on February 19, 2014, 02:38:48 PM
Quote from: cjbogger on February 19, 2014, 02:18:41 AM
Bryan what did you use to cut yours
I used one of them dirt bike tire groovers. It worked good better than a chisel. But if I did it again I would get one of them oscillating saws they cut like butter.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: MidMichiganMudRun on February 19, 2014, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Rohde009 on February 19, 2014, 03:51:56 AM
I have a couple sets of cuts if you would like to try before you cut yours
wait a min remember we need a set for schuss.... lol
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: Rohde009 on February 19, 2014, 06:10:17 PM
Oh dont worry Shuss is taken care of we got about 4 sets for that weekend the snow will fly
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on February 19, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
Thanks everyone for the input here, rohde009 thank you for the offer much appreciated. After asking around then posting on here im just gonna put my big boy pants on an cut the back two. If i dont like them ill just find me some more HP  :)

Are you guys talking about using sawzall with a dull blade?
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: michigan maniac on February 20, 2014, 12:31:22 AM
I'm gonna use this with a flat blade, there is a video on YouTube, and on here of a guy using an air one and it rips right threw very fast

http://m.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/oscillating-multifunction-power-tool-68861-8493.html
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: michigan maniac on February 20, 2014, 12:34:25 AM
Here's the like I was speaking of, video is a few post down under little saw

http://wegotmud.com/forum/index.php?topic=87247.0
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on February 20, 2014, 12:53:43 AM
Sweet idea that would work awesome I've used those on home projects thanks
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: night train 2 on February 20, 2014, 01:08:59 AM
Quote from: cjbogger on February 19, 2014, 12:55:48 AM
Help! im on the fence about cutting my boogers never have run them cut before and would like some input for some of you guys that have.
Im just worried that once cut and if I dont like them theres no going back.
they are 35/16 boggers on a 67 cj5

the harbor freight oscillating saw works real good for taking the bulk of the rubber off then use a grooving tool to take the rest off.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: suggate on February 20, 2014, 01:37:32 AM
Buy a wide air chisel bit and put an edge on it and u can do a tire in about 20 minutes. Works good and cuts easy.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: michigan maniac on February 20, 2014, 03:21:05 AM
Quote from: suggate on February 20, 2014, 01:37:32 AM
Buy a wide air chisel bit and put an edge on it and u can do a tire in about 20 minutes. Works good and cuts easy.

Watch the video of the oscillating saw seems quicker and easier then the chisel method
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: MR NASTY on February 20, 2014, 05:27:46 AM
Doesn't look like the saw gets them as flush as the chisel. I did mine with the chisel and it was pretty easy only advice is no matter which method you use start with a clean tire.  It didn't take much dirt to dull the chisel!
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: michigan maniac on February 20, 2014, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: MR NASTY on February 20, 2014, 05:27:46 AM
Doesn't look like the saw gets them as flush as the chisel. I did mine with the chisel and it was pretty easy only advice is no matter which method you use start with a clean tire.  It didn't take much dirt to dull the chisel!

That is true, I think the guy in the video was going for speed, not quality of the cut, I'm sure if you go slow and be patient the saw will make some good cuts, I'm gonna try the saw on mine and if it doesn't cut as flush ill switch back to the chisel method, I also plan on using a tire buffing disc to smooth everything clean once I'm done,  Im also debating on going deep cuts like this

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Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on February 20, 2014, 10:59:25 PM
Thanks guys I got the chain saw, skill saw and sawzall, the multimax, air chisel and router. Im gonna try them all just to see what works best for me. Maybe ill just try a few cuts with each and post pics. of each to show the difference i come up with.

thanks again for the info very helpful  ==wgm
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: mutt truck on February 21, 2014, 12:48:16 AM
The harbor freight tool works real well, that is what I used to cut my hawgs.
I would have to say that you will have practically no time into cutting bigger as they have straight lugs. Added benefit is that you are able to chaos the scraper blade back up. The blade is a lil pricey, make sure that you get a better one because I tried one of the cheaper brands and the blade started to bend.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: MidMichiganMudRun on February 25, 2014, 02:20:57 PM
Quote from: Rohde009 on February 19, 2014, 06:10:17 PM
Oh dont worry Shuss is taken care of we got about 4 sets for that weekend the snow will fly
lol... yes it is
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: night train 2 on February 26, 2014, 01:54:35 AM
Quote from: michigan maniac on February 20, 2014, 12:31:22 AM
I'm gonna use this with a flat blade, there is a video on YouTube, and on here of a guy using an air one and it rips right threw very fast

http://m.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/oscillating-multifunction-power-tool-68861-8493.html
tried the oscillating tool today with a 2" blade was hard to get in there so i grabbed my saws all with a 6"metal blade and worked pretty good to take the bulk out will finish with my tire groover and a 3/4 blade
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on February 26, 2014, 02:06:40 AM
Ill have to give that a try when I cut mine
How did they look with just the sawzall cuts?
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: night train 2 on February 26, 2014, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: cjbogger on February 26, 2014, 02:06:40 AM
Ill have to give that a try when I cut mine
How did they look with just the sawzall cuts?
you cant get them evenly flush with the casing but it takes the bulk out, going to true them up and scoop the lugs with the groover.

Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: michigan maniac on February 26, 2014, 02:23:20 PM
Quote from: night train 2 on February 26, 2014, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: cjbogger on February 26, 2014, 02:06:40 AM
Ill have to give that a try when I cut mine
How did they look with just the sawzall cuts?
you cant get them evenly flush with the casing but it takes the bulk out, going to true them up and scoop the lugs with the groover.

Cool post some pics when done !!


Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: night train 2 on February 26, 2014, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: michigan maniac on February 26, 2014, 02:23:20 PM
Quote from: night train 2 on February 26, 2014, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: cjbogger on February 26, 2014, 02:06:40 AM
Ill have to give that a try when I cut mine
How did they look with just the sawzall cuts?
you cant get them evenly flush with the casing but it takes the bulk out, going to true them up and scoop the lugs with the groover.

Cool post some pics when done !!


i took 3 lugs out then skipped 1 then 3 more out on my front 38.5s definitely recommend sanding down the grooved sections, makes them look so muck better.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: mutt truck on February 26, 2014, 06:34:14 PM
Man that looks mean! I took every other lug out of two of my hawgs, and it definately worked however the lack of surface tread caused a rapid tire wear.
My next two I just took half of each out, won't wear on the tire as hard.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: night train 2 on February 26, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: mutt truck on February 26, 2014, 06:34:14 PM
Man that looks mean! I took every other lug out of two of my hawgs, and it definately worked however the lack of surface tread caused a rapid tire wear.
My next two I just took half of each out, won't wear on the tire as hard.
my trucks pretty light about 3000lbs, they haven't seen pavement yet.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on February 26, 2014, 10:00:45 PM
very nice looks sweet
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: Thumper on March 01, 2014, 02:15:09 PM
ya think cutting a new $400+ tire is gut wrenching, try cutting a $775 new 44 bogger fresh off delivery truck, BIG BOYS DO CRY, lol

CUT ALL FOUR YOU WILL NOT DISAPPOINTED, WE DID, AN LOVE IT
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: cjbogger on March 02, 2014, 11:45:15 PM
To cut, I got the back two cut they turned out pretty good
I tried pretty much everything you guys suggested and what worked best for me was my gasket scraper heated with a torch cut like butter then smoothed them out with a wire wheel

tried a hammer chisel heated but seemed a little uncontrolable but worked good just wasnt clean
sawzall with a dull blade cut to rough and was okward
dremel multimax worked be it seemed it would of took twice as long
router was a mess and melted the rubber to fast

everything worked good but with the scraper and a torch it only took about 1 1/2 hours to do both
So if i have a groover I think that would be a winner I think im gonna order one to finish them up

thanks for the replies and suggestions
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: night train 2 on March 03, 2014, 01:13:58 PM
Quote from: cjbogger on March 02, 2014, 11:45:15 PM
To cut, I got the back two cut they turned out pretty good
I tried pretty much everything you guys suggested and what worked best for me was my gasket scraper heated with a torch cut like butter then smoothed them out with a wire wheel

tried a hammer chisel heated but seemed a little uncontrolable but worked good just wasnt clean
sawzall with a dull blade cut to rough and was okward
dremel multimax worked be it seemed it would of took twice as long
router was a mess and melted the rubber to fast

everything worked good but with the scraper and a torch it only took about 1 1/2 hours to do both
So if i have a groover I think that would be a winner I think im gonna order one to finish them up

thanks for the replies and suggestions

well i got my blades for the groover but i cant keep my air lines to my shop furnace from freezing, maybe by the end of the week i can get my tire finished.
Title: Re: To cut or not to cut
Post by: Rohde009 on March 03, 2014, 03:12:00 PM
Thats what I used was a scraper and small propane torch with map gas worked slick for me