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Projects & Parts => Garage/Tech => Topic started by: tmspike on April 26, 2014, 03:11:30 PM

Title: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: tmspike on April 26, 2014, 03:11:30 PM
Anyone use or build a pinion break that mounts to the transfer case and getting rid of breaks on axles? Anyone make a kit for this other then the parking break kits..?  Any pics or ideas?
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: Mudduck on April 26, 2014, 05:14:21 PM
I seen people do that and I d say do little more research I advise not to if your driveshaft breaks u may have no brakes at all  I mount mine at axle pinion so if the driveshaft breaks I ll still be able to stop
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: mudbillyredneck on April 26, 2014, 05:42:36 PM
if the driveshaft or shafts  break , you'll most likely roll to a stop pretty fast .... ;D

But I like the idea of a brake off a seperat master so that if you loose a line while out playing, you have a second pedal to get you through the day or weekend

Better to overdo the safty equiptment than to under do
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: BigFrank on April 26, 2014, 06:19:12 PM
ive built 2 of them on my truck  first one worked ok but failed from a rock getting wedged in there     2nd one seems too work a lot better    I also thought about using a parking brake tail shaft that some  2wd 400th  in motorhomes and bigg trucks had on them[url=http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac94/Big_Frank_2010/FOR%20SALE/P2130472.jpg](http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac94/Big_Frank_2010/FOR%20SALE/P2130472.jpg) (http://s889.photobucket.com/user/Big_Frank_2010/media/FOR%20SALE/P2130472.jpg.html)[/URL]
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: 71 Highboy on April 26, 2014, 11:26:52 PM
Mounted mine on the back of the t case works great. You would have to break both drive shafts to not have breaks your stopping the case on the drive shaft.
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: newS10 on April 27, 2014, 12:07:07 AM
Or like me hit a tree and Explode it. Then it will not stop at 60+ mph. The t-case no more well just no more T-case or pinion brake.LOL that's all i can do now. ++peace GotMud?
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: mudboggincrazy on April 27, 2014, 01:36:56 AM
i had my break on the tcase when u hit the break u stopped everything fab up just like the 1s on the axles mounted it 2 were the pbrake was on the tcase.... i was running a np200 so it was easy to fab up... and like said ull have breaks unless u break both driveshafts at the same time
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: Hammerlane on April 28, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
I'm with MD on this.. 
driveshaft breakage ???  so.. you have NEVER put your vehicle in 2wd ???

not to mention your putting one of the highest stress systems in line with the weakest part of your drivetrain  ==doh
theres a reason that type of setup is not allowed in racing or on the street.
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: michigan maniac on April 30, 2014, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: Hammerlane on April 28, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
I'm with MD on this.. 
driveshaft breakage ???  so.. you have NEVER put your vehicle in 2wd ???

not to mention your putting one of the highest stress systems in line with the weakest part of your drivetrain  ==doh
theres a reason that type of setup is not allowed in racing or on the street.

They are not allowed on the streets because they heat up to quickly at high speeds, monster trucks use driveline brakes in racing... And yet again they heat up when used a lot and at fast speeds,

for a mud truck you will be fine running a driveline brake, the hardest part is fabrication to make it work properly on your tcase and redrilling a rotor to work
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: Hammerlane on May 01, 2014, 04:26:06 PM
Quote from: michigan maniac on April 30, 2014, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: Hammerlane on April 28, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
I'm with MD on this.. 
driveshaft breakage ???  so.. you have NEVER put your vehicle in 2wd ???

not to mention your putting one of the highest stress systems in line with the weakest part of your drivetrain  ==doh
theres a reason that type of setup is not allowed in racing or on the street.

They are not allowed on the streets because they heat up to quickly at high speeds, monster trucks use driveline brakes in racing... And yet again they heat up when used a lot and at fast speeds,

for a mud truck you will be fine running a driveline brake, the hardest part is fabrication to make it work properly on your tcase and redrilling a rotor to work


Agree with you to a point..
driveline brakes on the Monsters are Pinion style not at the tcase if my memory serves me correctly.
not opposed to driveline brakes, I think the opposition is "Where" they are mounted.. pinion vs. tcase
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: BigFrank on May 01, 2014, 10:43:36 PM
Quote from: Hammerlane on May 01, 2014, 04:26:06 PM
Quote from: michigan maniac on April 30, 2014, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: Hammerlane on April 28, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
I'm with MD on this.. 
driveshaft breakage ???  so.. you have NEVER put your vehicle in 2wd ???

not to mention your putting one of the highest stress systems in line with the weakest part of your drivetrain  ==doh
theres a reason that type of setup is not allowed in racing or on the street.

They are not allowed on the streets because they heat up to quickly at high speeds, monster trucks use driveline brakes in racing... And yet again they heat up when used a lot and at fast speeds,

for a mud truck you will be fine running a driveline brake, the hardest part is fabrication to make it work properly on your tcase and redrilling a rotor to work


Agree with you to a point..
driveline brakes on the Monsters are Pinion style not at the tcase if my memory serves me correctly.
not opposed to driveline brakes, I think the opposition is "Where" they are mounted.. pinion vs. tcase

ive noticed from the start on mine when ya hit the brake too stop theres a lot of rocking motion  on the drive line   like the momentum  and rotating mass wants too put a lot of pressure on the t case and drive shafts  its deffinetly a lot different from having wheel brakes    it  all comes down too the type of truck  smaller truck with boggers would bee different than a tractor tire truck
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: tmspike on May 01, 2014, 11:11:07 PM
Thanks for all of your input fellas
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: BigFrank on May 01, 2014, 11:32:30 PM
what type of setup doo you have that ya want too do the t case brake on
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: tmspike on May 06, 2014, 12:37:28 AM
Its a 400 th mated to a 205 with 38.5 boggers. Dana 60 front corp 14 rear
Title: Re: Pinion brake for transfer case
Post by: BigFrank on May 06, 2014, 12:54:25 AM
Quote from: tmspike on May 06, 2014, 12:37:28 AM
Its a 400 th mated to a 205 with 38.5 boggers. Dana 60 front corp 14 rear
u joint output on the rear then   take that off and get a companion flange yolk for the t case and the end of the drive shaft  cut off the thickness of the rotor  from the drive shaft  make brackets off the sides where the t case boltsinto the frame???