So I put a new(used) 350 vortec motor in my cousins 96 Yukon. Had it running just fine in the driveway. I don't have the scanner to completely get it in time so I towed it up to muffler man in Clio. I get a call a couple hours after they had it and the gentleman (that is working on it) says that he can't get it to fire. I assure him it was running just fine in the driveway on its own. Didn't even have to touch the gas to start it. He calls back a half hour later and continues to tell me he can't get it started because the starter isn't engaging long enough. I chuckled at this because it started for me with the same starter! Then he also tells me he had too pull the dizzy back out and move it about three teeth so the rotor is now pointing at the #8 prong of the cap with the #1 cylinder on TDC....? He says that's what ALLDATA has listed as the correct procedure.....I have built and installed a couple motors in my day and last I new you want to keep #1 on the cap and #1 cylinder at the same point! Am I wrong on this?
Wow. Sounds like you took it to the wrong muffler man. Take it to Uncle Steve.
Tell the tech to read this http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/238244/post/1884528/
u can drop a dizzy in and whatever way the rotor is pointing that's where you put your number one plug wire on cap and go in fire order. they just say to point it at number one so you can easily remember where the fire order starts.
I think I did see that on alldata before. As long as plug wire #1 is where you pointed it with #1 at TDC it'll run. It's just more commonly pointed in the general direction of the #1 cylinder. Did he say its attempting to start and kicking the starter out, or backfiring against the starter... sounds like you should go get it asap before he damages something.
Another thing to remember is that those caps are funky. #1 cylinder post is off to the opposite side I believe. I know the posts are all kinds of different from an old HEI cap.
If it is the cap that the wires plug in the side then it should have a 8 and a 6 cast into the top of the shaft. I believe then you put the motor on tdc and point the rotor to the 8 for a v8. Then you would need a scan tool to set the cam degree.
Quote from: malibu78 on May 04, 2014, 03:52:31 AM
If it is the cap that the wires plug in the side then it should have a 8 and a 6 cast into the top of the shaft. I believe then you put the motor on tdc and point the rotor to the 8 for a v8. Then you would need a scan tool to set the cam degree.
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I think 96 is the first year for the dist cap that wires plug in the side instead of the top. If so when the cap is off the top, the dist has a small 6 and 8 made into the body of the dist. The shaft does not point to number one when set. It should be within a few degrees of 8 for a v8 and 6 six for a v6. When it is set you have to check the cam and crank correlation with a scan tool. On the motors that use a side mount dist cap you do not use a timing light. When the motor is on tdc center, I believe the shaft has a white mark on it and the gear had a indent in it. You line them up and set the shaft in and it should drop in and the rotor should point to 8. If 96 is still the cap with the wires on top then it would be pointing to one. I have used all data for quit a few years, this might be why he said 8? The same procedure is in the link Michigan maniac posted.
Quote from: malibu78 on May 04, 2014, 04:56:58 AM
I think 96 is the first year for the dist cap that wires plug in the side instead of the top. If so when the cap is off the top, the dist has a small 6 and 8 made into the body of the dist. The shaft does not point to number one when set. It should be within a few degrees of 8 for a v8 and 6 six for a v6. When it is set you have to check the cam and crank correlation with a scan tool. On the motors that use a side mount dist cap you do not use a timing light. When the motor is on tdc center, I believe the shaft has a white mark on it and the gear had a indent in it. You line them up and set the shaft in and it should drop in and the rotor should point to 8. If 96 is still the cap with the wires on top then it would be pointing to one. I have used all data for quit a few years, this might be why he said 8? The same procedure is in the link Michigan maniac posted.
That is the correct procedure, I'm just curious if the guy working on it didn't know the right way and pointed it a #8 cylinder compared to the 8 stamped on the dizzy
Quote from: michigan maniac on May 04, 2014, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: malibu78 on May 04, 2014, 04:56:58 AM
I think 96 is the first year for the dist cap that wires plug in the side instead of the top. If so when the cap is off the top, the dist has a small 6 and 8 made into the body of the dist. The shaft does not point to number one when set. It should be within a few degrees of 8 for a v8 and 6 six for a v6. When it is set you have to check the cam and crank correlation with a scan tool. On the motors that use a side mount dist cap you do not use a timing light. When the motor is on tdc center, I believe the shaft has a white mark on it and the gear had a indent in it. You line them up and set the shaft in and it should drop in and the rotor should point to 8. If 96 is still the cap with the wires on top then it would be pointing to one. I have used all data for quit a few years, this might be why he said 8? The same procedure is in the link Michigan maniac posted.
That is the correct procedure, I'm just curious if the guy working on it didn't know the right way and pointed it a #8 cylinder compared to the 8 stamped on the dizzy
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Well the truck is running after my cousin bought a new starter and dropped that off to them. I'm not sure what the tech did to begin with but the truck is home now. I'm not sayin I had it perfect cause I didn't but at least it started without a problem. Oh well, thanks for the input y'all