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Projects & Parts => Garage/Tech => Topic started by: michigan maniac on July 29, 2014, 03:18:28 PM

Title: building a bbc
Post by: michigan maniac on July 29, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
I'm in the process of building a block, and just currious as to what heads everyone runs in thier boggers, aluminum/ cast, stock with port work, after market...
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: J.C. on July 29, 2014, 03:21:22 PM
I bought some aluminum heads off ebay. 320cc intake runners, 2.30/1.88 valves. $950 delivered to my door. Springs good to whatever specs you give them. Hopefully get to use them in the next few weeks
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: michigan maniac on July 29, 2014, 04:03:12 PM
What brand are they ? I've seen some in there also that don't look bad, just concerned about quality
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: J.C. on July 29, 2014, 08:22:31 PM
I want to say pro star? I don't think they were procomp. Place out of virginia. Best head you can buy imo is AFR. Costly, but man do they make power.

Edit* can't find the place, I'll have to fire up the laptop and see if I can find it
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: J.C. on July 29, 2014, 10:36:56 PM
Skip White
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: Jthomas on July 30, 2014, 01:17:21 AM
Afr makes a nasty head! But I just couldn't afford them... Brodix  is runner up in my book. And they have great coustomer support, and I have bought tons through them. They can repair anything you give them. And you might be able to get a set on the cheap if they have a cosmetic blemish they can't sell.

But try to match your top end. Don't just scatter your parts. Get a cam to match the heads, get springs to match the cam, get the intake to match the heads/cam, and a carb to match the cfm requirements of your engine. You will be much happier doing that.
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: Jthomas on July 30, 2014, 01:21:56 AM
Ps. Fill out a forum, or email them. Ask for a recommendation, they will tell you exactly what to use. Then just cross reference the specs to a cheaper head if you are on a budget.

Once you have the head specs, message a cam company for a recommendation for a cam/spring combo.

Boom. You have all your specs, then just cross reference them to other companys to get the best deal
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: michigan maniac on July 31, 2014, 02:55:35 AM
What brand of rotating assembly do you prefer ? Scat, eagle, seen lunati too


Was looking more at this kit http://m.ebay.com/itm/331264880955?nav=SEARCH

Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: Jthomas on July 31, 2014, 03:24:41 AM
Well I can't say much about them.

Yes, you can buy some of the same spec rods cheaper than others. Then you see and identical rod for $1,500

I pay more, because company's like crower, Ohio cranks, Callie's, Oliver, diamond, ect. Don't make junk. Most of the rod company's are actually Chinese and different company's slap their logo on it. Say that when they were pouring your rods in their foundry, and the metal was off a bit, they are still going to use it. When you use a high dollar company like above, they are all made in house, and if they get a bad batch of steel, they won't pour it. They start over. And ensure that you have the highest quality part that they can produce.

I've seen Chinese rods come from the factory +/- .002" as their spec for taper/out of round!!!



But back on the subject, eagle seems to be very popular, and they seem to be stepping up their game, as far as a true quality part.
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: Jthomas on July 31, 2014, 03:34:35 AM
But as I say all the time, engines are personal preference. It's all about what you want it to do, and how long you want it to do it for. The main thing is, just be realistic. Everyone wants "as much HP as possible" and wants "10,000rpm" and wants the thing to last, but they are on a "budget". There is no such thing...

There are trade offs when it comes to motors, you have to choose what you want the most, and build your engine around that. So say you want a torque motor, build it with heavy parts, and a long stroke, and keep the rpms low.  Trade off being you loose wheel speed, extra weight, and if you don't have a rev limiter you have to be careful not to over rev .
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: michigan maniac on July 31, 2014, 03:37:27 AM
Yeah I agree you get what you pay for, and I would love to know I have a good quality part, but I'm also on a budget lol  

Also when looking at them should I look for internally ballanced or external?
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: Jthomas on July 31, 2014, 03:39:56 AM
Once again, personal preference.

I order all my stuff internally balanced, then have the whole rotating assembly balanced at a shop. But the reason I use internally balanced is because all my motors are, I can swap flywheels, crank hubs, and dampeners and know I'm not mixing.
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: Jthomas on July 31, 2014, 03:42:26 AM
Ps. If you have a mild engine your building on a budget, my opinion would be eagle.
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: michigan maniac on July 31, 2014, 03:44:02 AM
Yeah I was leaning towards internal, then I know its ballanced in shop and its good to go
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: Jthomas on July 31, 2014, 03:46:08 AM
Quote from: michigan maniac on July 31, 2014, 03:44:02 AM
Yeah I was leaning towards internal, then I know its ballanced in shop and its good to go

It's perfectly fine to have external. Just don't mix them
Title: Re: building a bbc
Post by: marshall on July 31, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
Brodix aluminum on my 489, eagle rods and crank. I trust my builder, he picks the parts.