legality issues?

Kodiak450r · July 07, 2008, 11:20:33 PM

having a dilema and just need a straight answer if anyone can help. my gf is seriously considering running away from her house and coming to live with me. she's 16, her situation at home is not good at all due to verbally abusive, not caring mother and stepfather who HAS threatened physical abuse. her real fathers not much better so that option is out. i want the best for her and she really wants to just pack her

and move in with me. her mom won't allow her to do it so she just wants to do it anyways. my question is, can she run away without the threat of being put in foster care or whatever, and can i get in trouble for kidnapping when she willingly wanted to do this?....thought about going to the police to talk to a detective or whatever but idk they would help me or just say to talk to a laywer.

Squirell · July 07, 2008, 11:49:33 PM

she needs their permission till she is 17 6 months. then there isnt anything they can do

Uncle Steve · July 07, 2008, 11:58:57 PM

Quote from: Squirell on July 07, 2008, 11:49:33 PM
she needs their permission till she is 17 6 months. then there isnt anything they can do

X2 for sure ,be careful bro that could turn out reel bad for you

Ranger Dave · July 08, 2008, 12:21:25 AM

if she moves in with you right now, you would be in a world of

.

have you ever seen the CSC list.

http://www.mipsor.state.mi.us/PSORDisclaimer.aspx

go here and put in you zip code, it mite suprize you .

CRAZY MAN broncomudhead · July 08, 2008, 12:50:27 AM

your new room mate wood be named BUBBA !

Kodiak450r · July 08, 2008, 12:57:41 AM

Quote from: Ranger Dave on July 08, 2008, 12:21:25 AM
if she moves in with you right now, you would be in a world of .

have you ever seen the CSC list.

http://www.mipsor.state.mi.us/PSORDisclaimer.aspx

go here and put in you zip code, it mite suprize you .

boy theres alot of people that have the same address...weird
what ever happened to the age of consent. that being 16?? her parents don't object to our relationship at all. sure i'm 4 years older then her but hell my parents are 14 years apart. most relationships these days are seperated by a few years.

Ranger Dave · July 08, 2008, 01:03:35 AM

this is not the good old days no more

Bowtie972 · July 08, 2008, 01:26:56 AM

Four years difference isnt much at all , except in your situation, she is still a minor. Are there any other family members, grandparents, older brothers, sisters that might be able to help? I know you mean well by her moving in with you, but that is the last thing you want to do until shes old enough. Her parents could bring down a world of

on you in a hurry!

PathWayMan · July 08, 2008, 01:28:06 AM

Quote from: Ranger Dave on July 08, 2008, 01:03:35 AM
this is not the good old days no more

Them good ol days are gone Beware of jail time everyone is doing it now days

madkmart · July 08, 2008, 01:51:55 AM

her parents get a wild hair up thr azz and buddy ur world just got ROCKED u b in some much trouble plus ur name would b on tht list for the next 25 years

Hammerlane · July 08, 2008, 04:13:07 PM

Been around foster/shelter care since I was a teen .. parents had 54 kids in 20 yrs

Heres the deal -
1. Harboring a run away - misdomeaner ( the courts don't appreciate that )
and she would probably be put back in the home due to the shortage of available foster type housing.

2. ever heard the term "17 will get ya 20"
(you are currently engaged in a relationship with a minor - Felony.. generally overlooked unless pursued by an aggressive parent/attorney)

3. potential for the "abuse" to spread to you and your family (yea.. yea.. I know, we can handle it.. but do you REALLY want to bring it on the rest of your family)

is there lawful documentation of the "abuse" if so, how many times? the courts would look upon your harboring a runaway in a different light "*assuming*" there is substantial documentation of the abuse.. there would also need to be substantial documentation of attempted "legal" actions to correct the situation ie.. counsiling, other housing placements etc...
Other concerns need to be addressed also.. who would become "legally liable" for her wellfare.
health care, debt,

I've seen this situation again and again..
yep.. she could move in with you,, and it might all work out but..
7 times out of 10... see that light at the end of the tunnel?? it's the train !! by the way.. look behind you.. see that light ??

Good luck.

madkmart · July 08, 2008, 04:59:18 PM

well put Hammerlane

THAT MUDFIT GUY · July 08, 2008, 05:15:21 PM

not only is her moving in with you a issue but there is also the issue of you sleeping with a 16 year old her parents may sayits ok now but what happens when she runs off to be with you and then they say hey we never let him do anything with her there ya go stat rape regardless of what she says the law is the law and the best thing you can do is step back and see what happens because the SOR is the least of your worries on that end of the spectrum you also need to look at teh fact that she is a 16 yr old child and i use that term for a reason in the eyes of the state she is still achild and another thing have youlooked at teh aspect that maybe you are her way out of a bad situation im not downin your girl or yourmorals just giving my oppinion from an outside perspective some times our visionis clouded by love or what we assume to be love and if your happy thats great but sometimes you need to get a outside opinion and see how things look from the other side of the glass im sorry in advance if i steppedon toes i shouldnt have but ive been in this EXACT SITUATION and i stepped back till my gf now wife turned 18 went back and took her out of the situation when no one could do ANYTHING about it weve been together for 10 years now and have never been happier

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE EXPRESSION "IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE SET THEM FREE IF THEY DONT RETURN IT NEVER WAS MEANT TO BE"

like i said just my opinion take it for what its worth

Eroq · July 09, 2008, 03:44:09 AM

my buddy delt with this for the last year-ish, but she was 17, in an abusive household.... as soon as she was 18 and COULD leave... her parents changed and werent abusive anymore (or atleast as much)... never the less she left a few weeks ago to live with my buddy...

shes just gotta wait it out, and if there is any trouble call the cops...

Hammerlane · July 09, 2008, 05:54:10 PM

Quote from: Eroq on July 09, 2008, 03:44:09 AM
my buddy delt with this for the last year-ish, but she was 17, in an abusive household.... as soon as she was 18 and COULD leave... her parents changed and werent abusive anymore (or atleast as much)... never the less she left a few weeks ago to live with my buddy...

shes just gotta wait it out, and if there is any trouble call the cops...

Best advice so far Eroq..
to be brutally honest here.. she needs to learn to deal with this type of conflict (the verbal abuse), it's gonna happen to her the rest of her life in one form or another.. it's a part of maturing.
Learn to tolerate, adjust and work thru difficult situations cause guess what... it's gonna happen to her the rest of her life in one form or another...

Any physical abuse.. defend herself by any means available and have them arrested !!! PERIOD !!