90 chevy 4wheel steer/4wheel drive/4wheel independant suspension

Started by lapeer20m, January 20, 2007, 05:08:44 PM

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390JOE

try taking a t-case and turning it around so that way you can then run driveshafts it would give some more gear options also and that might be also be less labor involved. but just my 2 cents you got a neat project going on there keep it up.
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390JOE

Quote from: lapeer20m on April 05, 2007, 10:08:05 PM
HERE IS A NEW VIDEO, THIS ONE IS ABOUT 6 MINUTES LONG.  It's difficult to grasp just how capable the truck is in the mud.  The lockers are unbelievable!  I wish there was another solid axle truck out there that had similiar size tires just to give perspective on how well the IFS really performs in deep mud. 




sweet vid now i want a ride in that creation
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chevotass

looks good.  hows your head after that 3rd youtube video though.  looks like ya boinked it on the hitch.

Hammerlane

Consider a V drive unit, basically just an input shaft to a gear to gear setup that does this    >
assuming you have the space, Lower your input shaft from the top of the frame to below it, create the V drive and straight into the pig
your almost there.  Check Marine setups, they use them in boats and your skill level appears to be such that you could build one.
 

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MILKTOST

Great idea hammerlane  applaudd
I agree , a marine v-drive unit would work well.

I have seen pis of a buggy w 502 bbc using a v-drive box, worked well.

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lapeer20m

i would expect some crazy piece of backyard-engineering that i came up with to fail, but i'm suprised when the stock chevy stuff breaks. 

A few weeks ago i broke a half shaft.  Probably not too suprising.  Now i broke the steering gearbox.  It blew a seal where the steering input shaft enters.  Squirts all my ps fluid out in a matter of a few seconds.  Good thing i have another steering box.  (it's still attached to the rear of the truck..it's necessary to hold the drag link in place)  I hope this one works.  If not, i'll ifnd one at the scrap yard i'm sure. 

Steering with lockers engaged puts a lot of strain on the steering components. 
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KingCracker

that thing is friggin awesome. Im thinking of Frankensteins monster when i see that lol. And also i think everyone wants to ride in that lol. Sweet project!
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Quote from: MENACE 4X4 on April 10, 2007, 09:28:08 PM
why not go full hydro?

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that's the reason

I admit that the 4 wheel steering would be much easier to manage with full hydro.  IF i keep going through gearboxes i just might upgrade.  With full hydro i could have both the front and rear wheels turn using the steering wheel.  Thanks to whoever that was that posted the info a while back on hydraulic systems and related info.  That was some good reading. 

somebody suggested i call it the "ZOMBIE ZAMBONI".....hmmm
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lapeer20m

Quote from: Yoda Bill on April 12, 2007, 03:25:38 AM
you got any questions on full hydro, just ask...

a remarkable idea popped into my brain.....

why do i need a steering wheel at all?  Why not have a hydraulic valve for my front steering just like i have for the rear.  I could mount one valve on each side of the drivers seat.  Kind of like this one...but a little less fancy (just a single valve on each side, not 9!)



besides the obvious problem of no hydraulic pressure = no steering, why not go for it?  I could have the front and back hydraulic run off of it's own ps pump keeping the systems totally separate increases the chance that i'll have either front or rear steer if something does fail.  I can build a setup for the steering that allows me to drop a "pin" through a hole to keep the wheels tuned straight ahead in case of failure.  She actually turns sharper with the rear tires verses the front ones.  HMMMMM!
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Smithingell

you can defiantely run it that way, and you wont need a steering valve (orbital, as most people call them) to do it...it would actually be pretty simple...

just make sure the valves you use are open center...closed center will destroy your pump in very little time...

KORNBREAD

thats an awesome idea. that would fix the problem, i say go for it man. i know you could do it you have done a hell of a job so far!! keep it up.
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LowSbody

Food for thought. Eliminating the steering wheel leaves you with nothing to hold onto. You use that steering wheel for more than just turnning.
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Smithingell


dozer man

 not sure whose truck it was { i think vinces}  had the steering running off to valves just like that. he had removed the steering wheel and mounted a big sissy  handle to the dash to hold onto .
 

Smithingell

Vince runs a single lever for steering, and its mounted right where the wheel would be...he also takes it out as an anti-theft device!  ==roll

HIGBEE

Quote from: dozer man on April 15, 2007, 02:26:23 PM
not sure whose truck it was { i think vinces}  had the steering running off to valves just like that. he had removed the steering wheel and mounted a big sissy  handle to the dash to hold onto .
Quote from: Yoda Bill on April 15, 2007, 10:34:45 PM
Vince runs a single lever for steering, and its mounted right where the wheel would be...he also takes it out as an anti-theft device!  ==roll


That would be LUKES charger!!

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