HELP... wheels will not come off

Started by spr_chicken, January 02, 2012, 07:30:20 PM

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spr_chicken

I have a 1989 3/4 ton 4x4 Suburban that I can not get the rear wheels off of. A little over a year ago I had new tires put on it. I had to use a breaker bar and a 5 ft pipe to get the lug nuts off. I have had the front wheels off to do the front brakes. I went to do the rear brakes and rotate the tires and I can not get the rear wheels off. They seem to be stuck on the lugs. They are alcoa aluminum rims and will not budge. I tried a pry bar, 10 lb hammer, and hear without any luck.


I have tried to call the place that put the tires on and just get an answering machine. I left a couple of general messages for them to just call me and one with a little detail on my problem.  I do not want to just drive there because it is a 1/2 hour away from me and the truck needs rear brake bad.


Does anyone have any other idea on how to get the rear wheels of? The rear axle is a c-clip corp 14. I am at the point where I might try pounding the wheel studs out...

Chevy Racer

I had an issue like that and had to climb under the truck and hit the inside of the rim with a sledge to break it loose.  The center hole is a tight fit and can corrode and make it even worse.

marshall

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spr_chicken

Quote from: marshall on January 02, 2012, 07:44:26 PM
20 lb. hammer, than anti-seize

LOL I used a ton of anti-seiz on the front after I did the brakes...

Quote from: Chevy Racer on January 02, 2012, 07:40:29 PM
I had an issue like that and had to climb under the truck and hit the inside of the rim with a sledge to break it loose.  The center hole is a tight fit and can corrode and make it even worse.

I tried hitting the rim, tire, and brake drum. I even tried an air hammer, thinking it might vibrate it loose.

4x4xdodgeman

I have heated center of wheel and axel. just a little. and then go under hit the tire with sledge and turn the wheel some.  when going together use anti-seize it.

spr_chicken

Quote from: 4x4xdodgeman on January 02, 2012, 07:51:47 PM
I have heated center of wheel and axel. just a little. and then go under hit the tire with sledge and turn the wheel some.  when going together use anti-seize it.

I tried heat...

We even tried the pry bar while hitting the tire with the sledge hammer while it was hot. I worked at it for over 3 hours.

dirtydog

put the front back together n drive it around a short distance with loose lug nuts but keep an eye on them. just an idea u dont have too try it

spr_chicken

Quote from: dirtydog on January 02, 2012, 08:10:37 PM
put the front back together n drive it around a short distance with loose lug nuts but keep an eye on them. just an idea u dont have too try it

I left the lugs loose and drove the truck in circles and up and down my dirt road. I figured that would have been my best bet being the truck is so heavy

dirtydog

Quote from: spr_chicken on January 02, 2012, 08:20:55 PM
Quote from: dirtydog on January 02, 2012, 08:10:37 PM
put the front back together n drive it around a short distance with loose lug nuts but keep an eye on them. just an idea u dont have too try it

I left the lugs loose and drove the truck in circles and up and down my dirt road. I figured that would have been my best bet being the truck is so heavy
==dn ==please

BIG DOG

put the tires back on and take it to your local place for a tire rotation   lol    come home then do the pads   ..       bottom line beat the piss out of it and keep turning the tire   leave a lug nut on loose to catch it when it comes loose.          good luck

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spr_chicken

Quote from: dirtydog on January 02, 2012, 08:40:25 PM
Quote from: spr_chicken on January 02, 2012, 08:20:55 PM
Quote from: dirtydog on January 02, 2012, 08:10:37 PM
put the front back together n drive it around a short distance with loose lug nuts but keep an eye on them. just an idea u dont have too try it

I left the lugs loose and drove the truck in circles and up and down my dirt road. I figured that would have been my best bet being the truck is so heavy
==dn ==please

I did that last night, so we will see if it worked later when I try getting them of again... LOL

spr_chicken

Quote from: BIG DOG on January 02, 2012, 08:41:49 PM
put the tires back on and take it to your local place for a tire rotation   lol    come home then do the pads   ..       bottom line beat the piss out of it and keep turning the tire   leave a lug nut on loose to catch it when it comes loose.          good luck

I thought about taking the truck to get an oil change and get the tires rotated... LOL

ToughBowtieTruck

Use an any-angle bottle jack to put pressure on the rim, use a block of wood anchored to the opposite wheel or spring . . .


But wait!! If you have a full float axle, you CAN just take the wheel and hub off as an assembly, if you don't have or care to destroy the center caps . . .

RIP_K52007

take it to discount tire and tellem ur back tires are leaking... they will take them off for you loll  or soak it in wd40 and let it sit then go at it the next day with the sledge hammer  ;D

RIP_K52007

and anti seize is a big no no... if you get it between the wheel surface and the hub when you tighten the lugs it is like hydraulic pressure between the two surfaces, doesnt let the wheel tighten all the way up.    Also putting it on the studs is not a real good idea, it does the same thing between the surface of the lug nut and the seat on the wheel. (it can actually make the threads strip off the stud easier if you are using a impact).. The best thing you can do is clean both surfaces up as good as you can (we use wire brushes and 3m buffing pads) and just make sure you take the tires off every 3 months/6,000 miles (like for a rotation). That way you can keep the hubs clean and dont have to worry about running into this problem in the future.

While you have the truck in the garage it isnt a bad idea to drop the spare tire check the air in it and WD40 up the winch cable so it doesnt rust up and not come down when you need it.

Wild One

The Works toilet cleaner. let it soak for a while, add a little more, soak, ect.

It will eat the corrision caused by aluminum against steel.

Used it on semi-trailer rims, came off with small pry-bar

burl

==rf I Draw The line For The Shear Trill Of Crossing IT! ==rf

7387chevynut

I had this problem on my 86, but it was only the right front tire. I used a 4x4 post and sledge hammer, and put the long end of the post up against the rim, and them beat the piss out of it, she finally gave way.

You probably know this already, but dont hammer on the rim itself with the hammer, I try not to do this with the tire itself. Remember, beating a wood block against a rim wont hurt it
chevvv

spr_chicken

I talked to the place that put the tires on and they said they would charge me to get them off. So there was no point in driving there for nothing anyways...

That will be the last time I buy anything from there again. I've baught several lift kits, wheels, tires and other parts from them in the past...

camok10

ive used a porta power befor between the wheels and it worked just keep the lugs on so once ones loose you can still get the other
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