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Title: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: OHEARN.2012 on April 09, 2011, 06:58:25 PM
i dont really no too much about 4 wheel steer or hydraulic steering but i want to learn about it

but my question is can you take like lets say 2 d44 or corp 10s put one in the front and one in back and run hydraulic steering on both and have true all wheel steer or do you have to get the actual like grader axles??
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: betterbeaters on April 09, 2011, 07:17:09 PM
people do it with rockwells all the time..
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: OHEARN.2012 on April 09, 2011, 07:21:00 PM
well yeah i knew that but would takking a d44 and putting it in rear would the pinion spin the right way idk its kinda a thought im throwing around i dont have money for ROCKS lol
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: betterbeaters on April 09, 2011, 07:31:16 PM
I dont think 10 bolts will be strong enough......
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: OHEARN.2012 on April 09, 2011, 07:52:23 PM
oo yea idk like i siad it was an idea i threw around no deffinate plan
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: Blazin40s on April 09, 2011, 08:03:31 PM
Bad idea.  Maybe one tons tho...but if u go that way, just go rocks bout same price
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: 4x4xdodgeman on April 10, 2011, 01:15:56 AM
yes you can use those axels if you want. but the rear you going cut to get the pig in the center  of the truck so drive shaft is in line.
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: Eroq on April 10, 2011, 02:38:25 AM
You can do whatever you want. as long as you know how to plumb all the hydrualics!
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: OHEARN.2012 on April 10, 2011, 04:39:56 AM
idk i prolly wont do it just trying to learn things others have done and opinions
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: woody11769 on April 10, 2011, 06:10:42 AM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on April 10, 2011, 04:39:56 AM
idk i prolly wont do it just trying to learn things others have done and opinions

the only way to lern is to ask ....whats the old saying theres no dumb questions just dumb answers
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: Hammerlane on April 10, 2011, 01:50:12 PM
this type of question has been posed before..
if I remember correctly the 2 biggest obstacles are diff rotation and centering of the pig.
hyd.'s are just a matter of plumbing and routing of lines etc..

Chevy setup.. (no consideration for axle type)
both front and rear driveshafts spin the same direction (from the drivers seat) clockwise..
if you flip the front around (and make it a rear axle) the DS spins the wrong way.. so you need reverse cut gears in one of the diff's.
otherwise they work against each other.
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: OHEARN.2012 on April 11, 2011, 03:11:00 AM
Quote from: woody11769 on April 10, 2011, 06:10:42 AM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on April 10, 2011, 04:39:56 AM
idk i prolly wont do it just trying to learn things others have done and opinions

the only way to lern is to ask ....whats the old saying theres no dumb questions just dumb answers
thats wat im sayin ya know ive learned alot from going thru old garage/tech posts and learning things
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: blazentrout on April 12, 2011, 04:31:08 AM
What you do to make a rear stear axle is put the knukels from a front axle on the original rear end and use two long side shafts cut down to the proper lenght. the byTch is you need to make a spot for axle seals.
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: fordboy19 on July 05, 2011, 06:36:52 AM
That wht ive heard of ppl doin to use the actualy rearend puttin knuckles on them then hydro many crawlers use rear axles n the front to same thing.... with the knuckle but no wht ever side ur driveshafts on u will cut n shorten the axle tube so the pig n drive shaft is inline not sure of the gear rotation tho
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: rangerwheelinmike on July 05, 2011, 06:39:52 AM
14bolt steer front and rear would be cool lol
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: ~SwampRAT~ on July 05, 2011, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on July 05, 2011, 06:39:52 AM
14bolt steer front and rear would be cool lol

seen this done on 4x4 xtreme on spike...it was sick....
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: redneck ohearn on July 05, 2011, 09:38:14 PM
Quote from: ~SwampRAT~ on July 05, 2011, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on July 05, 2011, 06:39:52 AM
14bolt steer front and rear would be cool lol

seen this done on 4x4 xtreme on spike...it was sick....
yep same here pretty sweet
Title: Re: 4 wheel steer??
Post by: BAD APPLE on July 07, 2011, 05:21:42 AM
if u use a front axle and put it in back then it will be flipped around so it will be spinning in a reverse direction than what it would be if it was up front liek its supposed to be so it wold be like running in reverse and the ring gear and pinion are not made to handle the stress for a long time, you can do it but will probably be replacing the ring in pinnion often