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Title: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: chevy.jas on December 01, 2011, 03:49:08 AM
Whats the smallest trailer you have put two mud truck on i have two mud trucks. both are blazer frames with s10 bodys on them one with 44s and the other has 38s. i am looking at a 26 foot deck over goose neck. getting it for a steal if it does work!! Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: burl on December 01, 2011, 01:46:59 PM
The deck is 26 foot? That would mean both trucks tire to tire would have to be 13ft....or the furthest outside point on front to back for both you would probly need around a 30-32ft
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: BOGIN4D9 on December 01, 2011, 01:47:38 PM
depends on the bumper to bumper length, wheelbase,overhang, etc... I put my s-10 blazer and my bug on a 24' I would say go measure your trucks.
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: MR NASTY on December 01, 2011, 03:37:58 PM
See if you can do a test fit on it lol
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Post by: TOMAC on December 01, 2011, 04:22:02 PM
naw measure bumper to bumper on one truck and bumper to back tire on the other...
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: chevy.jas on December 01, 2011, 04:46:03 PM
never thought about measuring bumper to bumper and bumper to tire
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: Hammerlane on December 01, 2011, 04:55:32 PM
careful.. ANY thing hanging over the rear or sides of the trailer by more than 4" (thats 4 inches) is considered "oversize" and requires a permit and additional lighting..
not that the cops will mess with you but there is the potential.  just sayin..
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: chevy.jas on December 01, 2011, 04:57:05 PM
Quote from: Hammerlane on December 01, 2011, 04:55:32 PM
careful.. ANY thing hanging over the rear or sides of the trailer by more than 4" (thats 4 inches) is considered "oversize" and requires a permit and additional lighting..
not that the cops will mess with you but there is the potential.  just sayin..
thanks!
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: Mudduck on December 01, 2011, 05:29:09 PM
i got 29 ft deck and i loaded ramcharger and samurai and it kinda tight so two s 10 on blazer frame might be lil tight for 26 footer
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: marshall on December 01, 2011, 06:36:58 PM
Quote from: chevy.jas on December 01, 2011, 04:46:03 PM
never thought about measuring bumper to bumper and bumper to tire
i think it would be tire to bumper, bumper to tire? front can hang over a little i think? but ya, test fit before ya buy
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: TOMAC on December 02, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
Quote from: Hammerlane on December 01, 2011, 04:55:32 PM
careful.. ANY thing hanging over the rear or sides of the trailer by more than 4" (thats 4 inches) is considered "oversize" and requires a permit and additional lighting..
not that the cops will mess with you but there is the potential.  just sayin..
what if it has a five foot tail???   im sure u can over hang that part..  as long as it dont go past that.
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: Hammerlane on December 02, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
Quote from: Toe-Mac  (Tomac) on December 02, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
Quote from: Hammerlane on December 01, 2011, 04:55:32 PM
careful.. ANY thing hanging over the rear or sides of the trailer by more than 4" (thats 4 inches) is considered "oversize" and requires a permit and additional lighting..
not that the cops will mess with you but there is the potential.  just sayin..
what if it has a five foot tail???   im sure u can over hang that part..  as long as it dont go past that.

My understanding is that the measurement is taken from the rear most position of the trailer deck.
not sure I understand the "five foot tail" (truck or trailer)
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: Ranger Dave on December 02, 2011, 06:17:08 PM
if you take a trailor  and add 5 ft to it. you will that change the center of it. and throw the  balance of it off.  i think  the  tung will be light. and you don't want that.

you should  move the  axles.  to keep the  tung weight wright.
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: 390JOE on December 02, 2011, 07:09:31 PM
Quote from: Hammerlane on December 02, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
Quote from: Toe-Mac  (Tomac) on December 02, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
Quote from: Hammerlane on December 01, 2011, 04:55:32 PM
careful.. ANY thing hanging over the rear or sides of the trailer by more than 4" (thats 4 inches) is considered "oversize" and requires a permit and additional lighting..
not that the cops will mess with you but there is the potential.  just sayin..
what if it has a five foot tail???   im sure u can over hang that part..  as long as it dont go past that.

My understanding is that the measurement is taken from the rear most position of the trailer deck.
not sure I understand the "five foot tail" (truck or trailer)

i think hes talking about a five foot dove tail.
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: TOMAC on December 02, 2011, 08:48:34 PM
Yeah dove tail
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: TOMAC on December 02, 2011, 08:52:20 PM

yeah if ya have the rear tires on the "deck" part and have the a$$ of the truck hang over on the tail part so i think it will be legal....



(http://www.pj-trailers.com/image_library/options/flatdecks/five_foot_dovetail_2_ramps.jpg)
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: randycrane79 on December 02, 2011, 09:13:56 PM
my buddy huals two s10s on a 28 ft and it hangs of ass end by 2 foot  and hasnt been stopped yet but dont mean it wont
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: chevy.jas on December 02, 2011, 11:32:45 PM
Yea thinking were gonna need atleast a 28 if not 30
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: Hammerlane on December 03, 2011, 12:32:19 AM
Gotcha..
No, pretty sure if your truck hangs over as you describe there are grounds for a citation, same as with a car hauler (big truck)
bored cop, small town.. just sayin you might want to look it up.  MTA.com   (Mich. trucking asso.) or State of Mich. website

I understand your not commercial however I'm sure there are restrictions.
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: BIG DOG on December 03, 2011, 01:02:15 AM
also michigan trailer speed  is it still like 55  ?   i know its posted trucks at 60 mph
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: chevy.jas on December 03, 2011, 01:36:47 AM
Yea would rather be safe and get a big enough trailer
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: dirtydog on December 03, 2011, 02:26:24 AM
didnt want to hear that cuz mine hanges over the back of the trailer a couple feet and both front tires are over the side by atleast 3" getting me scared now
Quote from: Hammerlane on December 01, 2011, 04:55:32 PM
careful.. ANY thing hanging over the rear or sides of the trailer by more than 4" (thats 4 inches) is considered "oversize" and requires a permit and additional lighting..
not that the cops will mess with you but there is the potential.  just sayin..
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: ToughBowtieTruck on December 03, 2011, 05:14:00 AM
Michigan Law states that any trailer with more than 2 wheels or weighs more than 750 lbs is required to be towed at the truck speed limit of 60 mph on the highway.

Loads cannot exceed 4 feet  off the farthest back point of the trailer without a flag. Loads cannot exceed 102" wide without permit (except certain snowmobile trailers and such) . . .

http://michigan.gov/documents/TS-025_Chauffeur_40680_7.pdf (http://michigan.gov/documents/TS-025_Chauffeur_40680_7.pdf)

Also, a Class A CDL is required for a pickup truck and trailer with a trailer weight of over 10,001 lbs or combination weight of over 26,001 lbs, if you are caught hauling anything you don't own.

http://michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1627_8669_53324-213067--,00.html (http://michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1627_8669_53324-213067--,00.html)

Another interesting bit is we have been pulled over, inspected, and warned for having a stump grinder (that has trailer brakes) being pulled with an open-tube receiver. A solid-steel receiver hitch is required for any trailer with brakes on it. Not an issue with a gooseneck, but an issue for bumper pullers.
Title: Re: Trailer question for all you guys!!
Post by: Hammerlane on December 03, 2011, 03:01:20 PM
There's your answer...
nice job TBT