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Title: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 11, 2013, 07:18:51 AM
So this is the new mounds pounder trail rig.
It's a 1999 Jeep Cherokee classic.  It's got rusty rockers, front floors and a small hole in the roof.  Also it has 33/12.50/15 BFG All-Terrains stuffed under it at stock height.  It's had some trimming done.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 11, 2013, 07:21:17 AM
Today I pulled the rotted bumper and the front sway bar off.  It rides better and now rubs on the chassis. Found some cheap lifts so ill order one this weekend.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: J.C. on December 11, 2013, 07:27:07 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: Air Force Fireman on December 11, 2013, 07:33:01 AM
I had 31s on a stock cherokee for a while before I got a lift. No cutting on mine. Those rubbed bad enough--I can't imagine 33s! Good luck. Have fun with it.  a=f
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: Uncle Steve on December 11, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: J.C. on December 11, 2013, 07:27:07 AM
Sweet!
==rocks
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on December 11, 2013, 06:29:08 PM
Where did you find a cheap lift? Looking for one myself.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on December 11, 2013, 06:39:03 PM
Are you shooting for sat or sun before Christmas ?
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: WHITE KNIGHT on December 11, 2013, 07:19:51 PM
Make ur own lift for around 120 bucks , much better than add a leave u bolts are around 40 buck s for good ones and center pin  Chevy leaves work good  , and grab some ford coils off a 150 work great , I can put 4 big guys in jeep and never bottom out  while wheeling ,
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on December 11, 2013, 07:29:28 PM
Front coils off what year ford ? . = how much lift ?. Thanks
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: J.C. on December 11, 2013, 07:41:55 PM
Quote from: derbydude on December 11, 2013, 07:29:28 PM
Front coils off what year ford ? . = how much lift ?. Thanks

x2
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: WHITE KNIGHT on December 11, 2013, 11:34:51 PM
http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/Suspension_Steering_Axles_and_Brakes/Budget_Lift.htm.  Hope this link will work for u
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 12, 2013, 12:40:18 AM
Quote from: ProGrade on December 12, 2013, 12:25:43 AM
http://www.quadratec.com/products/16058_11X_PG.htm

3" spacers 39.99

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/slf-2505?seid=srese1&gclid=CODG29y1qbsCFbBFMgodaGQAbA

Add a leaf 35.99

I found kits with the leaves and spacers together for $85 shipped on ebay.  about the same with blocks instead of add a leaf.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=xj+3+spacer&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xxj+3%22+coil+spacer&_nkw=xj+3%22+coil+spacer&_sacat=0

this one has shackles
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: michigan maniac on December 12, 2013, 12:44:46 AM
I wouldn't recommend f150 springs of your gonna plan to have any flex, they are rated for a lot more weight, I would keep the stock springs and spacers before springs from a different vehicle, my jeep did very well with spacers and add a leaf on the rear
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: Flat_Black on December 12, 2013, 01:42:01 AM
i ran f150 coils in my last jeep. flexed out just fine. make the dakota ba$tard pack for the rear. also v8 grand cherokee springs will give you lift also.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: lilred on December 12, 2013, 02:58:09 AM
I have v8 grand cherokee springs. Cheap lol
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: Air Force Fireman on December 12, 2013, 04:37:54 AM
http://zoneoffroad.com

I bought an add-a-leaf kit from them. Came with the leaf, new bolts, longers springs for the front. It worked great and was very easy to install. Never had a problem with it.  a=f
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: WHITE KNIGHT on December 12, 2013, 11:43:08 AM
Add a leave is ok and it will get u a little lift , but if u go wheeling every weekend and really ride the quad trail , they don't hold up and put some weight like gear and freinds back there , well  , the ford coils up front do work great . Yes they flex fine wish they were a little longer , when were trail g  my wheel can drop way down I have longer shocks that's my limit strap, lol at full drop I ca. Get out move my spring about 3" up and down on bump stop  , but can't go no wear , anyone who rides with me I'm sure will say it is very good trial rig , the back of mine sits  about 6" hi and
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 12, 2013, 04:56:07 PM
I've got some F-150 coils coming.  I've got lift blocks laying around so I think I'll just get new ubolts and be all set.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: burl on December 14, 2013, 06:09:27 AM
Ive got 6" lift coils for a bronco. 2..
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 16, 2013, 08:52:05 AM
I checked some things out today.  Found that if I put a 2" spacer between the bumps stop and the axle, the tire rubs only on the frame in ine spot, and none on the body.   Fixing this requires wheel spacers, narrower tires, or  wider axles to fix. I'm gonna space the bump stops for now and see how it goes for now,  I also am cleaning up the trimming on the fenders.

I also confirmed the caliper is junk, master cylinder is good. 
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: WHITE KNIGHT on December 16, 2013, 11:01:46 AM
Sounds like u been busy there , good luck hope to see u soon out there , Sunday was a blast with  the snow , and beautiful out there  ,  a=f
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 16, 2013, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: WHITE KNIGHT on December 16, 2013, 11:01:46 AM
Sounds like u been busy there , good luck hope to see u soon out there , Sunday was a blast with  the snow , and beautiful out there  ,  a=f
somehow between working 7 10's last week and completing school work, I managed to carve out a 3 hour block of time.  I've mocked some stuff up, but gotta stay busy this week so i can get out there...I'm sure it was awesome out there!
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: Merc09 on December 16, 2013, 03:38:51 PM
Why not just get some rims with some offset? Lol. Better than spacers imo.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 16, 2013, 05:25:27 PM
Quote from: Merc09 on December 16, 2013, 03:38:51 PM
Why not just get some rims with some offset? Lol. Better than spacers imo.
good point.  Either way it will end up tearing up sheet metal.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: WHITE KNIGHT on December 16, 2013, 07:21:49 PM
For me and what iv learned over the years , I stay with a tire in the range of 30 and a stock 7" rim .right now I got 8" and it sucks with the bead  always getting wood stuck in them or mud. Lol we always cAry a old school bumper jack for quick break downs on beads , clean out , air up back to wheeling , pat ran 33s but also went back down to a smaller tire ,really not there to play in mud , just go in to the tight as* trails and climb up and out  , of ? However if there is mud to cross then I have mud kings size 30 they do great also good in snow , just a little rambaling, lol
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: Merc09 on December 16, 2013, 08:26:09 PM
Quote from: ProGrade on December 16, 2013, 05:25:27 PM
Quote from: Merc09 on December 16, 2013, 03:38:51 PM
Why not just get some rims with some offset? Lol. Better than spacers imo.
good point.  Either way it will end up tearing up sheet metal.
Sawzall solves clearance issues ;D
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 16, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
Quote from: WHITE KNIGHT on December 16, 2013, 07:21:49 PM
For me and what iv learned over the years , I stay with a tire in the range of 30 and a stock 7" rim .right now I got 8" and it sucks with the bead  always getting wood stuck in them or mud. Lol we always cAry a old school bumper jack for quick break downs on beads , clean out , air up back to wheeling , pat ran 33s but also went back down to a smaller tire ,really not there to play in mud , just go in to the tight as* trails and climb up and out  , of ? However if there is mud to cross then I have mud kings size 30 they do great also good in snow , just a little rambaling, lol
I'm gonna stick with the 33's for now just because it's what I have.  They are on stock rims,  I think they are wrangler rims.  I bought a farm jack too.

Quote from: Merc09 on December 16, 2013, 08:26:09 PM
Quote from: ProGrade on December 16, 2013, 05:25:27 PM
Quote from: Merc09 on December 16, 2013, 03:38:51 PM
Why not just get some rims with some offset? Lol. Better than spacers imo.
good point.  Either way it will end up tearing up sheet metal.
Sawzall solves clearance issues ;D

Grinder is cleaner :)
It only rubs in 1 spot on the frame now.  Hopefully tonight I can wrap up the cutting on the rear.  Then make my bump stops do the rest.  Supposed to get springs and coils from a rubicon tomorrow, that will give me extra length to make up for the moved bump stops.  If the coils don't work out I have a line on some f150 coils and some bronco lift coils
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: michigan maniac on December 17, 2013, 03:39:55 AM
Post some pics once you get everything trimmed up!! 
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 19, 2013, 07:04:56 AM
Got some work done today.  Drivers side is all trimmed up and I put some door edge guard on the trimmed fender.  Still need to use a hammer in the rear inner fender and weld it to the outer.

Also on the passenger side I was putting the bump stop spacer in so I tried out the jeep rubicon shock and coils I picked up.  The coil seems the same, but the shocks are longer so I'm not sure what the deal is.  Also got a 33" spare.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: michigan maniac on December 19, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
Shocks are longer so the rubicon had more suspension movement I would assume
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on December 19, 2013, 08:45:31 PM
Are you going out to mounds Sunday with it ?
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 19, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Won't be ready by then, I was in a major accident yesterday so I'm laid up for a few days
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on December 19, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
Quote from: ProGrade on December 19, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Won't be ready by then, I was in a major accident yesterday so I'm laid up for a few days
sorry to here that , hope you get feeling well soon. anything I can do for you just ask , I do not live far from you.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 19, 2013, 11:50:09 PM
Quote from: derbydude on December 19, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
Quote from: ProGrade on December 19, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Won't be ready by then, I was in a major accident yesterday so I'm laid up for a few days
sorry to here that , hope you get feeling well soon. anything I can do for you just ask , I do not live far from you.
thanks, I'm not too bad just really sore
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on December 23, 2013, 06:00:07 AM
Got the passenger side cut today, except the rocker.  I was able to get the rear inner fender pushed up inside the cut outer quarter.  Then I used a bfh to open up some clearance.  The result:  no rubbing with the 33's on that side.  Now I just need to tack the inner in, Coat it and seal it.  I also noticed the rubicon coils sit lower than stock, but seem flexy.  Probably gonna go back to the stock and get rid of the rubicon suspension. 
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on March 09, 2014, 08:05:50 PM
Did some more trimming work and got a front pull point mounted.  Need to reinforce and the make a winch mount out of it.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: Mudduck on March 09, 2014, 10:08:44 PM
lookin good
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: newS10 on March 09, 2014, 11:01:49 PM
ProGrade, Did not know you had a jeep. looks like a mounds jeep to me i will have to get to my 2001 and run with you all. ==wgm ==kp A new project just one more. ==roll pullhairr ==roxx yeahh
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on March 10, 2014, 10:19:12 AM
Looking good , made this for the front of mine. Had a good time at the mounds yesterday. Daughter climbed part way up the rocks.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on March 10, 2014, 01:18:14 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on March 10, 2014, 03:00:48 PM
Do u have Rubicon rear shocks this thing? If so how much longer are they than stock xj ones ? Thanks.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on May 10, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
2 weeks ago I came across some jeep coils I bought a couple years back for the tracker project.  Turns out they are lift coils, the jeep is getting taller.  Got the rubicon shocks up front done too.  Now for the rear.  Hmmm.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: Mudduck on May 10, 2014, 06:13:54 PM
Looks good buddy
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on May 11, 2014, 01:08:02 AM
looking good , are you going to mounds next sunday ? 3 of us went to rocks and valleys today , great place looking forward to going back soon.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on May 12, 2014, 01:37:32 AM
Thanks guys!  Yup, my plan is to go to the mounds Sunday the 18th. 

I finished the lift.  I put my old add-a-leaf springs out of the Prograde Sierra in the spring pack to round it out, turned out a little higher in the rear than I thought.  There's a bunch of weight in the back now, and it still sits a little high in the rear, overall I think it's not bad considering I had all the lift parts.  I got stuck trying to pull out of the garage, it doesn't fit anymore with the tire on the rack.  I'll need a minor redesign there.  Going to build the winch mount/front bumper and put front brakes on this week.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: michigan maniac on May 12, 2014, 03:15:36 AM
Looking good, might have to head to the mounds Sunday, wouldn't mind hitting some easy trails myself to take the itch off my wheeling bug,  (haven't had time to get my lift on my Xj yet)
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on May 17, 2014, 01:54:34 PM
Run the xj stock,  still a lot of fun out in the little hills. I'll be out there tomorrow.  Wrapping up the jeep today.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: lilred on May 17, 2014, 02:00:22 PM
See ya there ==dj
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on May 19, 2014, 04:17:54 PM
Went to the mounds yesterday, and pulled lilred out, right after dragging big Todd's truck out of the way.  ==roll
A few folks (myself included) were nervous about the small amount of space for the hitch to weld to.  So we tested it and broke it.  Minor redesign should be complete this week.  Otherwise the jeep handled great!  Need to put an electric fan in next to the clutch fan. Need wheel spacers or different wheels, and need to put the bump stop extenders in for now.  Also need to fix the drivers rear shock mount and a leaky brake line.  Overall I had a blast!
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: lilred on May 20, 2014, 11:46:05 PM
Did good. ==djdj ==thanks ;D
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on May 31, 2014, 07:26:17 AM
Got the front pull point bolted in, found the rail mount roof racks got bent, moved everything to the factory rails.  Took care of a couple wiring issues, fixed the brake leak, and some other minor stuff.  Taking the kids to te mounds on Saturday.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on June 01, 2014, 12:29:29 PM
Needs a battery, alternator, lower radiator hose, fan still, axle ujoint, and time.  Had tons of fun though!
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: lilred on June 02, 2014, 01:04:16 AM
==djdj
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on June 02, 2014, 10:47:20 AM
let me know next time you go maybe we can hook up
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on June 02, 2014, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: derbydude on June 02, 2014, 10:47:20 AM
let me know next time you go maybe we can hook up
will do, need to do some work on it first.  Might go Father's Day.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: derbydude on June 02, 2014, 08:27:22 PM
Quote from: ProGrade on June 02, 2014, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: derbydude on June 02, 2014, 10:47:20 AM
let me know next time you go maybe we can hook up
will do, need to do some work on it first.  Might go Father's Day.
gonna be up to silver lake for fathers day weekend.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on June 02, 2014, 09:57:31 PM
Quote from: derbydude on June 02, 2014, 08:27:22 PM
Quote from: ProGrade on June 02, 2014, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: derbydude on June 02, 2014, 10:47:20 AM
let me know next time you go maybe we can hook up
will do, need to do some work on it first.  Might go Father's Day.
gonna be up to silver lake for fathers day weekend.
texted you
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on June 16, 2014, 01:45:49 AM
Last time I went out the cooling issue came to a head and I blew the lower radiator hose.  Since then I replaced the lower hose, put in a cooler t-stat and put in a factory electric fan.

I also replaced the battery and put in a full power cutoff switch, which takes care of any slow draw issues and also makes towbar pulling a breeze.  See pic.

As planned we went out for Father's Day.  The cooling and power issue both seem resolved.  I added some serious character to the drivers side when I had to get skinny in a tricky turn.  Had a good time and can't wait for the next one!

Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: lilred on July 11, 2014, 10:25:57 PM
==cl haven't had time to mess with mine. Between trying to get the engine in the other s10 and get some much needed yard work done :( did get the parts together just have to swap input shafts on the tcase should be good to go.
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: ProGrade on July 12, 2014, 03:41:59 AM
Quote from: lilred on July 11, 2014, 10:25:57 PM
==cl haven't had time to mess with mine. Between trying to get the engine in the other s10 and get some much needed yard work done :( did get the parts together just have to swap input shafts on the tcase should be good to go.
i need to change a ujoint, and make some minor repairs.  Got an alternator, and getting a new seat and doors with windows in them!
Title: Re: Prograde's Cherokee
Post by: danwheeler660 on July 16, 2014, 10:51:53 PM
looks cool