bailout Auto

[Ranger Dave]

Bail out  the  Auto  industry,  or  no. 


i  say  no, 

if i run my house, like  they  run them company  my   get  shut off.


please  keep it  clean.  drama  free

[Bigdaddy]

i added poll on top


i vote  yes,


because of all the jobs at stake..... big 3 is about only big american buisness left...
alot on the table here, my folk are retired GM workers,
i think there pension is on the line... they both worked 30 yrs for GM =60 yrs of service...
if gov. dont help out the factorys, it could forever damage michigan/US economy...

[HeatherLuvsMud]

I voted no, but I think something should be done. You're right BD, that would be a lot of jobs and a lot of people that devoted their lives to a company, I wouldn't want them being stuck in the situation of actually retiring and not having a pension.

[Plop]

something should be done. We need something to get us jump started and going back on track.

[Bigdaddy]

i think if they bail them out,should be some changes, as in changes of management...
get rid of the over paid fat cats & put a workin man in position of being boss JMO

[KORNBREAD]

something should be done. We need something to get us jump started and going back on track.

[Ranger Dave]

i didnt think about  out   military,  they  my need them plants.  change the  managament  then  help them out  i guess

[RIP_K52007]

i say yes... but we need some crap to change like quit paying to have troops in countrys that have no problems taking care of themselves.. pretty much being police... n the list goes on.. but in the case of that many jobs and retirment stuff they need help. if the big 3 went down that would be that many more people applying for help from the government... which hasnt helped get us where we are. IMO

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--alot of the big threes problem is the price of new cars.. if you didnt have to make 20,000 a year before you can even consider a new vechilce then they might sell more of them.-- one of my friends got his self into a new ford, problem is he makes pizza for a living... every dime he makes goes into paying for that truck.. i can tell ya one thing, my s10 has more metal in it than that f150. there isnt any reason for what new vehicles cost other than what the companys pay their employee's.--

[Bigdaddy]

Very good topic RD!

[TopFist]

If there's no bail out, you can kiss ALOT of Michigan jobs GOOD BY...Stop and think about how many people you know, that work in some part of the auto industry. Not just the big three. All the people that work at DELFI, LDM, LEER. All the molders, Stampers, ETC... There's more at risk than most people think, I heard some people talking today about how they need to learn a lesson. Well It's not going to be just "them". Think your having a hard time finding a job now, Wait till all those other people are out there looking. Think of all the forclosed homes, It would also drive down the value of your house. I'm not sure if a bail out is what we need, But something needs to be done.

[BIG DOG]

 JUST A MAD DEAL    FOR  OVERPAID  PEOPLE    AND WE CAN'T AFFORD NEW VEHICALS   CAUSE THERE OVER PAYED
    HELP THEY OUT    DROP  PAY   TO WHAT   WE  ALL MAKE         NEW CARS DROP PRICE  WE ALL BUY NEW CARS    THEY STILL SELL CARS  TRUCKS    PEOPLE STILL WORKIN EVERYWHERE       I KNEW GUYS IN  THERE MAKIN   45   TO 70   DOLLARS AN HOUR   HOILIDAY   2X AND 3X OVERTIME   

[jimmydean]

why are we asked to bail out a company, that the ceo's and all the other fat cats make over 10 million a year?    they are all in washington right now...   how did they get there?  northwest?  nope....   there fancy lear jet that there company pays for...  and there threatning bankrupcy?   i dont get it...

[XJGirl]

I have to say YES help the auto industry. Hello they bailed out the banks that gave AWAY bad mortgages and your not going to help the auto industry that really is just BORROWING the money. The banks problem was there fault 100%. The auto industry is suffering because of the economy.

Yes I agree changes need to be done, I live close to the tech center and often eat breakfast at a nearby diner that alot of those GM tech's go to. I arrive after them and leave before them, they sit there for hours smoking, getting paid, of course on the clock.

[Ranger Dave]

i agree  with  part of  what  you  say,  but it  is the  auto industry  that is  sending our  jobs  over to other countrys,    thats  why our  ecomy is  going  sour.   maby them country  can  bail them out     and  i don't think they needed to  fly  3  private  jets, to the  same place   to  ask for a  hand out.   at  20.000  a  trip.  maby thats  where the  troubles  at.  the  top.

[Bigdaddy]

but it  is the  auto industry  that is  sending our  jobs  over to other countrys,    thats  why our  ecomy is  going  sour.   maby them country  can  bail them out 

x2 maybe ask Mexico/China & all other countries the Big 3 moved too, Ask them for a loan too....

[jimmydean]

   X3   

[Bowtie972]

I vote yes, but, there must be stipulations with it!  If the answer is no there is a lot more people that will suffer than the GM workers and Fatcats!....................My wife and I work for  a stamping plant that supplies the Big 3 and Toyota with OEM parts, We are UAW and do the same work they do at the Big 3 but make far less money........and no  bonuses!  I think there should be changes in the Big 3, there is so much wasted money at GM its sickening, I have worked with GM retirees and you wouldnt believe the stupid things they waste money on, the Gov. should help but they should help with guidelines that must be complied with!  My dad is a GM retiree, he was a supervisor for 30 years, been retired  since '94, this year they cut his health insurance out, there is something seriously wrong with that, my dad worked 10-12 hours a day for years to raise 4 kids, and now look what GM did to him!   GM's forgetting about the people who got them where there at now!!!

[RIP_K52007]

but it  is the  auto industry  that is  sending our  jobs  over to other countrys,    thats  why our  ecomy is  going  sour.   maby them country  can  bail them out 

x2 maybe ask Mexico/China & all other countries the Big 3 moved too, Ask them for a loan too....

lol where do you thing the US is gnna get the money to bail the big 3 out?... the gov. dont have any money left... borrowing everything from china just to keep everything going in iraq. Prolly barrowed the 700 billion or whatever from china to bail out our stock market stuff too.

[XJGirl]

Well I REALLY REALLY hope most of YOU drive American made cars/trucks/suv's, if NOT your just as much to blame. JMO


I will ALWAYS buy american.

[RIP_K52007]

I never bought new.. alsways used... all i can afford.. so my profits go the the prevous owner lol.