There are getting rid of hummer, IM pissed.

Started by theBroken, February 18, 2009, 01:47:23 PM

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theBroken


Why should gm keep a line of vehicles that have lost over 50 percent in sales in the last year


1 year and 2 months ago GM's #3 most profitable dealer was swell hummer TX just behind saturn of troy mi and saturn clarkston mi. They are selling them cause they are worth money not because they are failing. If you announce at anytime that you may sell off a brand sales will tank. They are selling them to get money to save their other brands. Rite now buick makes more than the rest because of there massive sales in china, unfortunately the buicks we sell in china are made in china. All you flint people sould be real pissed about that.


My personal opinion is that hummer destroyed itself from the inside. The original h1 was just plain bad ass. It was big and mean, and hard core military off road truck. It was never meant for the faint of heart, and that's the way a decommissioned military truck should be.

The h2, and h3 were marketed to the yuppie we are too cool for minivans crowd. Very few were bought by REAL off road enthusiasts like you, and that is a real shame. You can't pretend you are a hard core off road truck, when 99.99999% of them never leave pavement. In the end it has destroyed any chance of hummer redeeming itself, and will wither and die even IF the economy was stronger. People just aren't buying suv's to be cool, and real offroaders don't want to be called mall crawlers for buying a hummer.

Now wait a second, when the xj was first incepted how many people took them off road? It was not untill they came down in price before you started seeing them out in the woods. Now there were just over 3million XJ's that made it to the dealer, that means if 10% of the XJ's ever built were taken offroad there are 300,000 XJ's being used for off road. There were only 300,000 H3's ever built in the US and 30% are still waiting to be sold mainly cause GM for the 3rd time in the last 2 years are saying they are selling hummer.

And how can you say any vehicle that comes stock with 4 wheel lock is a mall queen? Also the argument that the H1 is better than the H3, the H3 can fit in many more spots than the H1 can. The H1 only has 1.25" more clearance than the H3 and the H1 does not have 4 wheel lock....and with both fully loaded the H3 comes in 100,000 cheaper than the H1.

I understand that a lot of off roaders dont like the little hummer. After owning a YJ and a TJ I can tell you that driving my hummer out to moab any playing on the rocks all weekend is much funner and much more comfortable and safer than my old jeeps.


betterbeaters

dude you need to chill everyone had there own ideas on what  they like not everyone likes a s-10 frame with a h3 body
Have no fear Better Beaters is here.
76 chevy 1 tons 4.10s 350th 208 rip
86 army truck
87 chevy short box 1 tons 38s 350 vortec 350 th 208
real men play in swamps!!! cause thats how we roll!  BITCHES
full size chevys the real mans truck!

TOMAC

does anbody here make parts for them? well i do and it takes money out of my pocket now that we stopped making parts for them. but that was a year ago. f#$% over seas p00. everything i own is built right here!

TOMAC

Quote from: TOMAC on February 19, 2009, 02:07:25 PM
does anbody here make parts for them? well i do and it takes money out of my pocket now that we stopped making parts for them. but that was a year ago. f#$% over seas p00. everything i own is built right here!
if we are not making the steering parts.. who the f#$% is?

theBroken

Quote from: tits and beer on February 19, 2009, 01:56:11 PM
dude you need to chill everyone had there own ideas on what  they like not everyone likes a s-10 frame with a h3 body

I have not said anything that was not a fact, yet I sit here reading misconceptions and defending my rig after people bash it. Its not a s-10 frame, they have not produced a s-10 anything for a few years now. The H3 has a very similar wheel base to a F-150.

This topic was about american job loss.

I see stuff here and out at the mounds I dont like but Im not gonna tell somebody there rig sucks or its not up to my standards because its their choice and they like it and they want to drive it. Thats not for me nor anyone else to determine. I would expect to get the same respect in return.

theBroken

Quote from: TOMAC on February 19, 2009, 02:07:25 PM
does anbody here make parts for them? well i do and it takes money out of my pocket now that we stopped making parts for them. but that was a year ago. f#$% over seas p00. everything i own is built right here!

I know they switched the steering around cause the 06 and 1/2 07's were falling apart. I dont know what my 08 has or if they changed the supplier.

betterbeaters

Have no fear Better Beaters is here.
76 chevy 1 tons 4.10s 350th 208 rip
86 army truck
87 chevy short box 1 tons 38s 350 vortec 350 th 208
real men play in swamps!!! cause thats how we roll!  BITCHES
full size chevys the real mans truck!

theBroken

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Quote from: tits and beer on February 19, 2009, 02:40:04 PM
ITS A COLORADO FRAME SORRY! NOT A S-10....

Rite, but thats where it ends. They change things up a bit too to make it stronger. You can tell when you ride in both how much stiffer the H3 is, I like it that way thou. One thing they dont list here are the engine mount cups are 2.5" higher keeping with the idea of the HHMV with the giant floor tunnel in the cab.


betterbeaters

BUT IT USES THE SAME 4X4 PARTS IN BOTH RIGHT? (DRIVETRAIN)  AXLES, TCASE, TRANS?
Have no fear Better Beaters is here.
76 chevy 1 tons 4.10s 350th 208 rip
86 army truck
87 chevy short box 1 tons 38s 350 vortec 350 th 208
real men play in swamps!!! cause thats how we roll!  BITCHES
full size chevys the real mans truck!

theBroken

Quote from: tits and beer on February 19, 2009, 03:32:06 PM
BUT IT USES THE SAME 4X4 PARTS IN BOTH RIGHT? (DRIVETRAIN)  AXLES, TCASE, TRANS?
NO NO NO NO. We have a full locking T-case with anti YAW that makes it full 50-50 or 60-40 which ever you want its selectable. They have the same motor unless you get the alpha then you get the 5.3. The T-case on the H3 has all metal parts no plastic yolks or sunshells and has a low gear in it. The front halfs are a bit larger and longer. I do believe the trans is the same but Im not 100%. The front pumpkin in a H3 is CI where the GMC is aluminum. And the H3 has front and rear locking Diffs. Mine dont I couldnt afford it.

betterbeaters

ok I didnt know that thanks for the info!!! I think its great you beat your h3!!! it just wouldnt work for me! (too small) hope to see ya at the mounds some time!
Have no fear Better Beaters is here.
76 chevy 1 tons 4.10s 350th 208 rip
86 army truck
87 chevy short box 1 tons 38s 350 vortec 350 th 208
real men play in swamps!!! cause thats how we roll!  BITCHES
full size chevys the real mans truck!

BLZNBIG

if it aint broke, you aint playing hard enough

390JOE

here ya go hummer guys a vid that i found on youtube.

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LowSbody

I love the concept of hummers. But the fact is most that buy them are yuppy and will never see a dirt rd littel alone a trail. They will be gone on the new sales market. There just not selling like they where. Same for saturn and pontiac. There all gonna be gone. Sad but true.
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