gimme some info on 2.5 tons

J.C. · August 24, 2011, 07:40:01 PM

ill agree to disagree.

MUD KING · August 24, 2011, 10:36:44 PM

Alot of factors to consider here? Rocks are stronger hands down then 1 tons, and anyone who says not doesnt know what they are talkin about. Anything will break if your not smart about it. That being said, there are differing types of toploaders and gmc's. As a rule of thumb, the newer the better. The toploaders have three main types, ball and claw, rezeppa, and u joint. not only the front shafts are different, but the rear shaft strenght and carrier strength. Gm's have different splining, depending on the year of the axle. Rocks and gm's can both be run dependibly with a mild motor and weight combo up to about a 54" tire without many problems, if you get the newer stuff. Steel quality is just better the newer you get. 2.5 ton in gm or rock is stronger in alot of other ways also, the knucles, housing and carrier are all way stronger. I say go rocks because of part availability and driveline angle issues. Only downside is the clearance needed for the front chunk.

'the DON' · August 24, 2011, 11:10:20 PM

mr nasty is wrong . i broke 2 housings how do you maintain them is there a grease zert for that ? and those guys dont run their trucks like ohearn will. how many times do you see them at a backyard boggs or the mounds or pulling out their friends?aside from oc i dont . rocks are cheaper and stronger. 44 or bigger go with rocks the guys that say dont do it dont run their trucks like you will ohearn.

MR NASTY · August 24, 2011, 11:33:25 PM

I'm not telling him what to run I said imo rocks would be over kill and unnecessary weight to run a 44 inch tire. I ran a 60 in my truck with 44's for a whole year with a strong motor and never had a issue. And the reason I bring up maintenance is the guy I bought it from couldn't keep a shaft in it so I tore it down to find half the seals missing along with the inner spindle bearings. And I would bet broken housing equal abuse issues either from you or the previous owner. I'm not dumb and obviously rocks are not even in the same league as a 60 when it comes to strength. Just depends wether you want to go through the mud or over it because short of king of sling I've yet to see one of those heavy trucks do it.

betterbeaters · August 24, 2011, 11:36:15 PM

Quote from: 'the DON' on August 24, 2011, 11:10:20 PM
44 or bigger go with rocks the guys that say dont do it dont run their trucks like you will ohearn.

I bet I run my truck like him or harder....

rangerwheelinmike · August 24, 2011, 11:37:29 PM

olny time his truck got ran hard was when i drove

'the DON' · August 24, 2011, 11:43:26 PM

lol... i think i was there .

Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on August 24, 2011, 11:37:29 PM
olny time his truck got ran hard was when i drove

'the DON' · August 24, 2011, 11:59:05 PM

how much for a 60 and 14 bolt and then gears then you have to go through them . the rocks repack the bearings put them in . jmo . mr. nasty " abuse" i do abuse it thats what i built it for and it didnt hold up but i know my truck is pretty heavy . i made it big because i cant afford to make it fast .i just think it will be cheaper for him in the long run

MR NASTY · August 25, 2011, 12:26:19 AM

I hear ya. I've seen you unit and definitely appreciate your guys big trucks. Many times I've seen you and herb go the extra mile to get people unstuck. At the end of the day its all about the budget. Wish I had half the money me and my brother have put in to start from scratch. Just one other thing for him to consider though. The bigger the unit the bigger the trailer and tow rig your gonna need.

MR NASTY · August 25, 2011, 12:29:44 AM

Honorable mention to mud king and goliath too on the recovery end of things. Didn't want to leave you guys out!

'the DON' · August 25, 2011, 12:31:28 AM

oh yeah i realized that after i did it . after it was done i loaded it up on my trailer and the trailer was on the ground lol... needed no ramps. so new trailer then a diesel dually to pull the damn thing . should have stuck with geo tracker .

'the DON' · August 25, 2011, 12:32:50 AM

and ryan "mudman" and andrew

Quote from: MR NASTY on August 25, 2011, 12:29:44 AM
Honorable mention to mud king and goliath too on the recovery end of things. Didn't want to leave you guys out!

OHEARN.2012 · August 25, 2011, 12:44:08 AM

i got hookups on towing uncle owns a 27ft gooseneck gpa has a dually and if i wanted to go the extra milei could get a semi

TopFist · August 25, 2011, 12:51:17 AM

Quote from: MR NASTY on August 25, 2011, 12:26:19 AM
I hear ya. I've seen you unit and definitely appreciate your guys big trucks. Many times I've seen you and herb go the extra mile to get people unstuck. At the end of the day its all about the budget. Wish I had half the money me and my brother have put in to start from scratch. Just one other thing for him to consider though. The bigger the unit the bigger the trailer and tow rig your gonna need.

You said unit...

OHEARN.2012 · August 25, 2011, 12:55:03 AM

i think he meant "run it" ??

TopFist · August 25, 2011, 01:06:20 AM

Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on August 25, 2011, 12:55:03 AM
i think he meant "run it" ??

"The Bigger The Unit" the bigger the trailer....And YES I was making a penis joke.

MR NASTY · August 25, 2011, 01:09:23 AM

Lol. And I meant to say your unit, with out the penis reference lol.

Jr · August 25, 2011, 01:13:51 AM

Quote from: TopFist on August 25, 2011, 01:06:20 AM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on August 25, 2011, 12:55:03 AM
i think he meant "run it" ??

"The Bigger The Unit" the bigger the trailer....And YES I was making a penis joke.

LMFAO

Rollover Herb · August 25, 2011, 03:00:34 AM

LOL I BUILT MY TRUCK FOR THE MOUNDS JUST LIKE DONNIE AND MUDMAN GIVE US A HOLE AND WE WILL PLAY IN IT SWAMPS AND CLAY PITS WE LIKE ALL KINDS OF MUD APPLES FOR APPLES ROCKWELLS ARE THE WAY TO GO AND MY TOW RIG IS A SHORT BUS AND THAT WAS ON A BUDGET! TOTAL INVESTMENT $5,000 FOR IT ALL HAVING FUN SINCE 2004 THATS HOW I ROLL BITCHES

MUD KING · August 25, 2011, 05:07:14 PM

Completley agree with the tow rig aspect end of it. I also likw rocks because of the upgrade end of things. I had 60 front 14 rear and had 4340 shafts all around and there superjoints into my one tons and finally got to the point where i was stripping a ring gear in the front everyweekend. Tried all types of gears and just was to much for the axle. Like the fact that i went to rocks and ran a 8 inch taller with 5 times the tread and pulled on dozers and rigs and never broke anything!