Bay City police tased and killed a 15 yr old boy today. The news said there were 3 officers present. The boy was under 6 foot tall and less than 150lbs.
I have worked many years of security, and have had to contain grown men until police arrived. For 3 officers to tase a 15 yr old is way out of line in my book.
its a shame that you cant even trust cops these days
Cops now days think they can do what ever they want...sad thing is they pretty much can, what are ya going to do? Call the cops?
its a shame i try not to bracke the law so they dont have to come around
Just saw this on the news this morning. There was no reason they couldn't have physically detained him. I know what TASER's do and why they are used. This is not a situation that required it's use.
Quote from: Disturban on March 23, 2009, 10:33:42 AM
Cops now days think they can do what ever they want...sad thing is they pretty much can, what are ya going to do? Call the cops?
bastards
Just like the bean bag guns. Great new thing, oh p00 it can kill some people,Hey I know lets try some electric shocking system till it kills someone. They might want to say freeze and do you have a heart problem. And if our 15 year old called the cops and said my dad hit me the same cop that tazed that 15 yr old and killed him ,would take me to jail . It's not protect and serve anymore,it isseek and stalk. There are some good ones out ther yet just noy very many.
Amazing how emotionally charged and predictable we've become
Cop uses force (ok, excessive.. but we don't know the whole story) and the cops are the bad guys..
http://wegotmud.com/forum/index.php?topic=38854.0
bad guy kills cops (I NEVER met a California cop I liked) and it's ooohh poor cops..
Just an observation.
x2 Welcome to the NEW Millenium ==idunno
Quote from: Uncle Steve on March 23, 2009, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: Disturban on March 23, 2009, 10:33:42 AM
Cops now days think they can do what ever they want...sad thing is they pretty much can, what are ya going to do? Call the cops?
bastards
Quote from: Hammerlane on March 23, 2009, 04:09:35 PM
Amazing how emotionally charged and predictable we've become
Cop uses force (ok, excessive.. but we don't know the whole story) and the cops are the bad guys..
http://wegotmud.com/forum/index.php?topic=38854.0
bad guy kills cops (I NEVER met a California cop I liked) and it's ooohh poor cops..
Just an observation.
First... I do agree that the kid should not have been tazed. But, I would like to know the entire story.
I would hate to be a cop now days. One kind could have a bark worse then his bite... and the next might be packing and have no problem with blowing your head off.
I give the cops all the credit they deserve putting their life on the line.
Feel free to bash me if you want... I just want to know the whole story.
Under no CIRCUMSTANCES should any child be tazered .... thats bad judgement
15 yr old kid less than 150 lbs , 3 cops (all adults), one tazer gun & one DEATH
enough said IMO 3 adults cant handle a 15 yr old ==hmmm , A parent is not allowed to lay a hand on his kid when they screw up,
but Cops can send 10,000 volts in a kid or person for that matter....
maybe they should of shot him in his kneecap, at least he would still see 16 ==idunno
Guess I'd like to know the whole story too.........probably see it on TV5 tonight.
If 3 Bay City cops can't handle a 15 yr old CHILD, then maybe Bay City should hire some real POLICE OFFICERS.
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=news/local&id=6723040
Here's a link to ABC 12 News
that is pretty bad.... that is a little too excessive 3 cops one 15 yr old boy no need for the taser to come out...
Quote from: Bigdaddy on March 23, 2009, 05:03:08 PM
Under no CIRCUMSTANCES should any child be tazered .... thats bad judgement
15 yr old kid less than 150 lbs , 3 cops (all adults), one tazer gun & one DEATH
enough said IMO 3 adults cant handle a 15 yr old ==hmmm , A parent is not allowed to lay a hand on his kid when they screw up,
but Cops can send 10,000 volts in a kid or person for that matter....
maybe they should of shot him in his kneecap, at least he would still see 16 ==idunno
dont know if this post was aimed at me... but if it was... read my first sentence.
I still think it was a shame what happened... and it should not have.
But, I find it strange whenever there is a story like this and I ask for the entire story and people blow up at me. I just like to know the whole story... from both sides of the fence.
wasnt aimed at anyone... i was stating facts... a boy & 3 men... just seems like tazerin the kid was overkill....
if it was my kid that was getting tazered, id be the one goin to jail.... whether he died or not... Id sue the Bay City Police Dept... bad judgement
Quote from: four_by_ken on March 24, 2009, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: Bigdaddy on March 23, 2009, 05:03:08 PM
Under no CIRCUMSTANCES should any child be tazered .... thats bad judgement
15 yr old kid less than 150 lbs , 3 cops (all adults), one tazer gun & one DEATH
enough said IMO 3 adults cant handle a 15 yr old ==hmmm , A parent is not allowed to lay a hand on his kid when they screw up,
but Cops can send 10,000 volts in a kid or person for that matter....
maybe they should of shot him in his kneecap, at least he would still see 16 ==idunno
dont know if this post was aimed at me... but if it was... read my first sentence.
OK, still no excuse.... of course.
But, what the hell was a 15 yr old kid doing out at 3:00 am?
I completely agree that 3 officers should be able to take down any unarmed 15 yr old kid without the use of a taser or gun.
no parents guidence i suppose.... we are goin to hear police dept side of story today... sad times we live in...
Quote from: four_by_ken on March 24, 2009, 12:28:13 PM
OK, still no excuse.... of course.
But, what the hell was a 15 yr old kid doing out at 3:00 am?
when i was 23 i was beaten by 6 cops in flint and the worst part is i was just a passenger in a vehicle that the driver was running because he didnt have a license when we finallly came to a stop i just sat in the truck with my hands up and didnt move he ran when they brought him back he had muddy footprints all over his face and coat all i did was said WTF they had already ran me and seen no wants no warants i was just standing there waiting for them to tell me i could go and next thing i know they bring him back i get slapped in cuffs and as they were putting me in the car they started hitting me with nightsticks and i was black and blue from the base of my head to my ass there were 12 cops there and none of the other ones tried to stop it just let i happen then i sat in the car for about a half hour and the one that had started the whole hittin came up took me outta the car slammed my face on the trunk gave me all my stuff back and my buddys money and said you better get outta here and as i started walking away he screamed out at me HOPE YOU MAKE IT HOME WITH ALL THAT MONEY WHITE BOY i made it to a pay phone and made a call and got picked up the next morning i had a black eye and was black and blue from head to ass never did anything about it THERE WERE 12 COPS THERE AND NONE HELPED WTF
My point is we put to much power in the hands of ppl who dont deserve it I BELIEVE IN WHAT THE POLICE DO AND WHAT THEY SHOULD STAND FOR BUT THEY HAVE TO MUCH POWER AND ABUSE IT TO OFTEN JMO
if you listen to the cops themselves, they even tell the story. First day ,he was hand cuffed after tazing , next day they say IMMEDIATLY AFTER TAZING A MEDICAL PROBLEM WAS NOTICED AND HELP WAS GIVEN.did they handcuff him while he was siezuring? I agree too much power in the wrong peoples hands. I do respect what the police do but some are'nt doing the right thing. not doing any thing but commenting.
this is why saginaw, flint and detroit are the way they are because a cop cannot deeand him self with out get slamd by the media you know they cover what they want to sell bad p00 get vewers dont like how they do it go down get your self a job then get told you cant draw your gun till you see theres first by then your dead stop and ask why he was fighting the cop no one has the right to fight them if you are under arest you f#$% up man up and deal with it
IMO its b.s. that they even have tazers. the police didnt need them for the last century....
A 15 year old kid doesnt really have a reason to be out unless there was a fight at home and left (been there many times) or somthing like that.. who knows.
It dont really matter why he was out. To me , unless the kid killed somebody he didnt deserve to die. I think its just another case of cops putting on a show, trying to scare a kid straight, which if his parents cant then how is a cop with a cow prod going to?
Im sure the cops were not trying to kill him, but they did, that is murder. I cant see where the issue is of wether or not it was right, we shouldnt have to watch out everyday of our lives for cops that might murder us. I personally have had one reach for a gun, when i reached for my license plate in the back seat (it fell off), which i can understand why, but what if he had a tazer? i would have probably got zapped.
==2cents
Quote from: lilred on March 25, 2009, 06:56:20 PM
IMO its b.s. that they even have tazers. the police didnt need them for the last century....
A 15 year old kid doesnt really have a reason to be out unless there was a fight at home and left (been there many times) or somthing like that.. who knows.
It dont really matter why he was out. To me , unless the kid killed somebody he didnt deserve to die. I think its just another case of cops putting on a show, trying to scare a kid straight, which if his parents cant then how is a cop with a cow prod going to?
Im sure the cops were not trying to kill him, but they did, that is murder. I cant see where the issue is of wether or not it was right, we shouldnt have to watch out everyday of our lives for cops that might murder us. I personally have had one reach for a gun, when i reached for my license plate in the back seat (it fell off), which i can understand why, but what if he had a tazer? i would have probably got zapped.
==2cents
Your right... they didnt need them the last century. Because people actually respected the police 50 years ago, unlike today.
The occurrences where something goes wrong during a tazing vrs where it simply incapacitates the person is very low. It is a viable way in todays f'd up world to stop uncontrollable people without shooting them.
No one anywhere has said that the kid deserved to die. I think that goes without saying.
I wonder why the kid resisted when the police arrived? If he had stopped what he was doing, I would bet he would have never been tazed.
When I have been pulled over, which isnt very often... I usually notice the police with his hand on his gun as he approaches my truck. I dont blame him one single bit. I would too.
"we shouldnt have to watch out everyday of our lives for cops that might murder us." What a screwed up statement. I dot even have a comment for this.
well, its just how this story sounds, im not talkin in general, im saying put yourself in this kids position.
Of course we dont have to watch every police officer out there, i can see how that could have been taken the wrong way.. my bad.
Quote from: badbowtie383 on March 25, 2009, 03:30:40 PM
this is why saginaw, flint and detroit are the way they are because a cop cannot deeand him self with out get slamd by the media you know they cover what they want to sell bad p00 get vewers dont like how they do it go down get your self a job then get told you cant draw your gun till you see theres first by then your dead stop and ask why he was fighting the cop no one has the right to fight them if you are under arest you f#$% up man up and deal with it
did you honestly see the size of the FIFTEEN yr old. I know alot of school teachers that break up 15 yr olds fighting all the time WITH OUT TAZERS! I did watch a cop on cops taze a WOMEN while his partener had her arm twisted behind her back ,pretty funny watching him jump. then while shes jerking around on the ground the cop starts screaming put your hands behind your back, then when she cant he must have had to stick his knee on her head to stop the jerking.nobody is saying all cops are bad. i live in beaverton and we had a 67 year old beat to a pulp by 3 state cops .not just rumor it went to court.2 out of three are no longer in this area they transfered them to detroit. ther might be some reason they thought they might be more effective down there. This is not a 17,18 ,19 or 20 year old HE WAS 15 FOR HEAVENS SAKE.
found out he was tazed and died on march 22nd and his birthday is on march 24th it being painted on the flint blockon 12th st and hammerberg road
dont think the kid had to die, but despite hes size the kid came after the cops with the inton of harming them and thay delt with them acordingly, it was probly just easser to tazzer him then fight him and thats what the cop did