i know a few things that i need like a 350 engine and i was gunna find one with a 4 bolt main so i know it would hold everything, 400 crank, 400 heads and rods. but what else do i need to get it done. i know i need to get it bored over but how far? could i use the intake off my 350 now? does jegs or summit or anyplace else sell a good kit to build a stroker?
There .30 over I do believe.
I got a 383 crank rods and pistons $700
350 bored 30 over with 400 crank u can use any sbc head better to have some better flowing heads vortec darts aluminum if you have the $$$ yes jegs and summit sell kits to build them u have to have the block clearance for the extended stroke with the 400 crank
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Quote from: Le Dude on August 11, 2011, 05:55:30 PM
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x2 on that one any motor build is gunna cost ya if ya want good horse and torque
sorry betterbeaters but i just dont have that kidna money right now but in a few months i will so ill PM you when i do cause i want to build this motor. but yea i know imma spend money on it but im ok with that cause itll be enough motor for me until i upgrade the rest of my drivetrain like i want to lol
30 over, gotta have the block cut out for the longer stroke, 400 crank, that's the simple recipe for a 383....everything else is up to your pocket and prefrence, (heads, intake, valvetrain) my recommendation if your trying to get the most out of your money is a set of vortec heads, best flowing stock 350 head (no the camelbacks aren't better)...and you can get a carbarated intake for it...I've had two engines with that head set up and they rock
save your money and build an LS series motor. hot rod magazine just built one:
Funny thing is they thought it was a 5.3 until after they got it off the dyno, then they pulled the pan and ran the crank number and realized it was a 4.8...... They wanted to see how much HP a stock LS motor could take, they did over 60 pulls(with most being over 1000hp) and pumped 26lbs of boost into the motor. The only other things they did was have the heads ported, installed a FAST intake with 75lb/hr injectors and installed a cam, but the short block was all stock.......And just think NO Forged Internals!!!!!!
-taken from http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showthread.php/29700-HotRod-makes-1200-hp-with-a-stock-4.8l-LS-motor (http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showthread.php/29700-HotRod-makes-1200-hp-with-a-stock-4.8l-LS-motor)
i have put a lot into mine lately and it will be done this weekend but heads gonna be you kicker but definatly worth it
u can not just drop the 400 crank in the 350 the mains have to be terned down to the 350 size it is cheeper to by a scatt from like jags or some were like that it will be a 383 crank
LS motors kick ass. my next motor will be a 6.0L stroked .100, bored .060, with 5.3 heads, .550ish lift cam, and carbed!
just build a 355 cheeper im not to inpressed with my stroker motor ive had 355 that run just as good
Other than clearancing the block how is it cheaper? I was never a fan of strokers either till I actually got my last one done that thing ran like a monster. If your after rpms then definitely go 355
Cheaper because all you do is bore the block and change the pistons...ur crank and everything is the same
Quote from: Blake Scheuneman on August 12, 2011, 12:42:15 PM
Cheaper because all you do is bore the block and change the pistons...ur crank and everything is the same
I didnt use the stock crank or rods in mine! got more money in my 355 than my 383 short block!!! not every 355 is just a piston change... if you want to make power you have to spend alot of money!!
Well yea but now ur confusing the guy...a 355 is simply a 30 over 350...not gunna make uch more power than a 350...obviously you can do whatever you want with your own 355. Leave the cast or put a high $ forged its all up to what you want and what you can afford
Quote from: MR NASTY on August 12, 2011, 05:59:38 AM
Other than clearancing the block how is it cheaper? I was never a fan of strokers either till I actually got my last one done that thing ran like a monster. If your after rpms then definitely go 355
well cant i get more RPM's out of the stroker than i can the 355?
Imo the 355 love the rpms. And yes the 383 will rev also the longer stroke is harder on the internals. Picture a weight on a 1' string swinging. Now put it on a 10'. Its gonna take more force to change its direction. And the reason I say it won't be any cheaper is if your buying crank rods and pistons anyway there is little to no difference in the prices.
i knew that it was hard on internals and all that but depending on my funds in the future that will be the decider on what i build
Quote from: Le Dude on August 11, 2011, 11:17:52 PM
save your money and build an LS series motor. hot rod magazine just built one:
Funny thing is they thought it was a 5.3 until after they got it off the dyno, then they pulled the pan and ran the crank number and realized it was a 4.8...... They wanted to see how much HP a stock LS motor could take, they did over 60 pulls(with most being over 1000hp) and pumped 26lbs of boost into the motor. The only other things they did was have the heads ported, installed a FAST intake with 75lb/hr injectors and installed a cam, but the short block was all stock.......And just think NO Forged Internals!!!!!!
-taken from http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showthread.php/29700-HotRod-makes-1200-hp-with-a-stock-4.8l-LS-motor (http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showthread.php/29700-HotRod-makes-1200-hp-with-a-stock-4.8l-LS-motor)
ive always been told when building a motor that there is no replacement for displacement. no turbo, nos, supercharger or anything like that will never make the same power as a built motor that does need that stuff to put the power out
That whole theory goes out the window when your talking about boost.
take a built motor. then a partly built motor and put a turbo or something on it. its not the same
Quote from: 84silverado on August 12, 2011, 02:42:28 PM
take a built motor. then a partly built motor and put a turbo or something on it. its not the same
you got a little to learn ++peace
ever watch pro mod cars? they run pretty ''built'' motors... the rule for naturally aspirated is 805ci, 526ci with forced induction. who wins? almost everytime its a forced induction car...
if you took ANY motor, run it down the track, put nos on it, then run it, it WILL go faster...
and all boost is, is restriction.
plus, everyones idea of a "built" motor is a little different...
Turbos are old school. Super chargers are where its at.
Quote from: MR NASTY on August 12, 2011, 03:48:01 PM
Turbos are old school. Super chargers are where its at.
id take either!!!!
Me too lol.
==nta
destroke for more rpm remember the chevy 302 a 327 with a 283 crank less travel more rpm
Quote from: cvan on August 13, 2011, 12:06:19 AM
destroke for more rpm remember the chevy 302 a 327 with a 283 crank less travel more rpm
bore is too small. you would have to run a 1.94 valves, which is fine, but less air/fuel, less power.
id build a 355 or a 377
well i found out today that a family friend of ours was gunna sracp his dump truck and i asked him how much he wanted for the 366 in it and he said i could just take it so im gunna go get that. then i also have my uncle whos gunna give me a kinda built 305 out of a junk truck of his. so i think imma put one of these ones in for now cause my motor now is just plum worn out and tired. but i still want to build that 383 one day but thats just me. but after i grow up alil bit maybe ill learn what kinda motor to run
Quote from: 84silverado on August 13, 2011, 01:40:26 AM
well i found out today that a family friend of ours was gunna sracp his dump truck and i asked him how much he wanted for the 366 in it and he said i could just take it so im gunna go get that. then i also have my uncle whos gunna give me a kinda built 305 out of a junk truck of his. so i think imma put one of these ones in for now cause my motor now is just plum worn out and tired. but i still want to build that 383 one day but thats just me. but after i grow up alil bit maybe ill learn what kinda motor to run
build a big block strroker motor
yea but if i put a bbc stroker in now i think those ol' 10 bolts will go bye bye. i think the only thing that wont break or wear out faster would be my t-case, im sure that 205 can hold whatever i throw at it
move ur engine back and keep good u joints in it dont get on it in turns and especially dont job it it will be fine lots of guys run them
yea ill move it back when i get a high hp big bock in it but for now i think with what i wanna run i can get through everything i want alrite and when i move on to bigger stuff ill upgrade when i dont have the stuff to do it anymore. but right now man i just wanna build a good motor, buy a 400 turbo and hook that to my 205 and i should have a pretty builtproof drivetrain
yea if u make sure gearing is right and ya have all driveline working in unison a stock motor will move ya threw the mud but add a nasty cam some better heads and youll have a hell of a motor. but like JC said build a 355 they are strong ass motors if built right
i have 373 gears right now and i can go through everything i want to right now but i want a few more ponies and alil more rpms so that i can do it alil bit easier...and faster casue steves swamp takes alil bit right now, especially at the end
u need rockwells and 72 inch tractor tires lol
lol i wish i had just the rocks
to build a good quility 383 plan on spending between 2000 and 4000 depending on how much work u do urself what heads u do ect my heads alone were 2000 and my machining and short block was over 2000 just an idea to be honest i love my 383 but to do it agian i would build a 355 and put a lil nos on it same end result
only thing that i would need done for me is the machining on the block. other than that its just buying the parts and things i need to put it all together. cause im not new to buiding motors, and definately not my dad. and we have everything to put it all together so no worries there. and i figured if i could save up about 3500 i could have a good one
2000 on heads what kind are they. And as for nos what are you gonna do carry five bottles to a bog with you. Every time you push the button you bottle pressure is going down and the less gain your going to get. I'd personally rather have the motor so I have the power all the time.
just buy betterbeaters 355 lol
Quote from: 355REDNECK on August 23, 2011, 09:18:11 PM
just buy betterbeaters 355 lol
hell yes! lol 492 hp on dyno with papers!
how much does betterbeaters want for the 355?
i would go 355 or if you want a good running small block chevy motor i would go 377.. 400 block with 350 stroke. i ran a few of these in hot rods i used to run and had real good luck with them, they rev and have alot of power
Quote from: 84silverado on August 24, 2011, 12:39:52 AM
how much does betterbeaters want for the 355?
$4000 firm
right now $4000 is alil out of reach for me right now unless i get my sign on bonus from the navy. if i get it ill more than likely buy that 355 from ya
Quote from: 84silverado on August 25, 2011, 12:34:50 AM
right now $4000 is alil out of reach for me right now unless i get my sign on bonus from the navy. if i get it ill more than likely buy that 355 from ya
its not cheap but you wont build it for that! 492 hp on dyno it rips my cut 44s
i know i wont build it for that! thats why im interested if i get my funds ;D but i gotta play the waiting game for a few more days. but if it rips 44's then it'll make my 36's fly lol possibly my 10 bolts to hehe
just let me know if you get the money!
if you want RPM's put a 283 crank in a 327 block and sticker a turbo or a super charger on it. run upto 9 - 10,000 rpm ;D loll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZDAHMPmIAk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZDAHMPmIAk#)
519 hp at 7,400 rpm and an even 400 lb-ft of torque at 6,300 rpm
http://www.superchevy.com/technical/engines_drivetrain/completebuilds_testing/sucp_1004_high_rpm_302_engine_build/viewall.html#ixzz1W3BNdy2r (http://www.superchevy.com/technical/engines_drivetrain/completebuilds_testing/sucp_1004_high_rpm_302_engine_build/viewall.html#ixzz1W3BNdy2r)