i figured it was about time to post a project thread about my truck now that some things are actually getting done with it! its a 92 chevy 1500 stepside. has a 350 tbi with a 700r4 trans and a 241 t-case. yea its not the typical offroad truck with all the fiberglass on it, but i like to do everything a little different! has a full poineer stereo system in it(not for the bass tho! for good overall sound! sub is turned all the way down as it is). self built brush guard(not completed yet, still have to make the bars to go around the lights). fog lights are upgraded to 100w bulbs, off road lights are upgraded to 150w bulbs and are bright as hell!!! has jba headers with a true dual exhaust with small glasspacks. ++peace the plan is to make it an all around rolling workshop and recovery vehicle! startin out with a sas that im buildin with my dad. its no fun if its a kit! ;D and lots more stuff im plannin on doing! GotMud?
just got the 1st shackle flip bracket done yesterday. just needs some paint! 1 more just like it for the other rear and then 2 more for the front similar to it
the new wheels: 15x10 keystone mag wheels. still need to be sanded and correctly painted. and the most importand part: a set of 35s to go on em!!!
sounds like thatll be a fun project!
cleaned em up. 4 hours of elbow grease and a wire brush... gonna sand blast em to get the last little bit cuz i decided to keep the aluminum look and not paint em
looks good!
looks good ++peace
Quote from: Kyle on March 15, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
just got the 1st shackle flip bracket done yesterday. just needs some paint! 1 more just like it for the other rear and then 2 more for the front similar to it
nice work man i wonder where you got that idea??
real nice work applaudd ==kp
Quote from: anthony on March 26, 2010, 04:32:37 AM
Quote from: Kyle on March 15, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
just got the 1st shackle flip bracket done yesterday. just needs some paint! 1 more just like it for the other rear and then 2 more for the front similar to it
nice work man i wonder where you got that idea??
hmmmm... i think it mighta been the idea fairy? loll
if your not painting them wheels the last thing u wanna do is sand blast them it will destroy the aluminum just a heads up i prollly wouldnt blast them if i painting them just clean um like u did and sand them for preb but dont blast them.
Quote from: hrspwrjunkie355 on March 26, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
if your not painting them wheels the last thing u wanna do is sand blast them it will destroy the aluminum just a heads up i prollly wouldnt blast them if i painting them just clean um like u did and sand them for preb but dont blast them.
i thought the blasting would do too much to it tho... theres still alot of pitting and discoloration in the wheel in the slots where sandpaper wouldnt do anything cuz its textured from when it was cast. i was gonna get a self blaster and just turn the pressure waaaaay down
Quote from: Kyle on March 26, 2010, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: hrspwrjunkie355 on March 26, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
if your not painting them wheels the last thing u wanna do is sand blast them it will destroy the aluminum just a heads up i prollly wouldnt blast them if i painting them just clean um like u did and sand them for preb but dont blast them.
i thought the blasting would do too much to it tho... theres still alot of pitting and discoloration in the wheel in the slots where sandpaper wouldnt do anything cuz its textured from when it was cast. i was gonna get a self blaster and just turn the pressure waaaaay down
FYI hrspwrjunkie355 Mag wheels and Aluminum wheels are different. Mag wheels are made with Magnesium, which is very different from aluminum, however they should not be blasted either.
If those are Magnesium wheels, the last thing you want to do is blast them. But there's a great website to read on for restoring mag wheels, well worth reading!
http://www.roadsters.com/wheels/
Quote from: ToughBowtieTruck on March 26, 2010, 05:42:04 PM
Quote from: Kyle on March 26, 2010, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: hrspwrjunkie355 on March 26, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
if your not painting them wheels the last thing u wanna do is sand blast them it will destroy the aluminum just a heads up i prollly wouldnt blast them if i painting them just clean um like u did and sand them for preb but dont blast them.
i thought the blasting would do too much to it tho... theres still alot of pitting and discoloration in the wheel in the slots where sandpaper wouldnt do anything cuz its textured from when it was cast. i was gonna get a self blaster and just turn the pressure waaaaay down
FYI hrspwrjunkie355 Mag wheels and Aluminum wheels are different. Mag wheels are made with Magnesium, which is very different from aluminum, however they should not be blasted either.
If those are Magnesium wheels, the last thing you want to do is blast them. But there's a great website to read on for restoring mag wheels, well worth reading!
http://www.roadsters.com/wheels/
thats an awsome link! the hard part aint the sanding for me its getting in the pockets of it... and where would i get the plastic media for a blaster? would a home depot have it?
test fit #1 the bolt holes all line up. just need the axle to trim for bolt brackets and all the other goodies to be bolted on!!
cool, im planing a sas for mine later down the road if i still have it when i get the fund's
also are your rim's drilled n taped for rally center's ??? i cant picture how'd they look on them
Quote from: camok10 on April 05, 2010, 11:43:14 AM
cool, im planing a sas for mine later down the road if i still have it when i get the fund's
also are your rim's drilled n taped for rally center's ??? i cant picture how'd they look on them
yea they are which confused me a lil at first... especially since theyre a mag wheel and not an acorn lug
Quote from: Kyle on April 05, 2010, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: camok10 on April 05, 2010, 11:43:14 AM
cool, im planing a sas for mine later down the road if i still have it when i get the fund's
also are your rim's drilled n taped for rally center's ??? i cant picture how'd they look on them
yea they are which confused me a lil at first... especially since theyre a mag wheel and not an acorn lug
hmmm odd but i can see the center's getting drilled for the mag nut's
trans went on me! reverse gone and wont kick into overdrive ==censor gonna pull it sometime this week and have it rebuilt and bulletproof! back to drivin the neon for a week i guess
Quote from: Kyle on April 12, 2010, 06:25:43 PM
trans went on me! reverse gone and wont kick into overdrive ==censor gonna pull it sometime this week and have it rebuilt and bulletproof! back to drivin the neon for a week i guess
that suck's i lost my 3-4 cluch pack in mine friday
almost forgot to post! thankfully the day before i blew the trans out i picked this baby up!!!! already has 410s!
got underneath the truck today and startin lookin at where everything was ==sick.... place only wanted 350-400 more to pull it out themselves... so i said screw it and just brought it in to em! woulda taken me 2 weeks to get the thing back on the road with the amount of spare time ive been havin lately. im assumin ill have it back on wednesday or round then...
got all the bubs repacked and put back together! new rotors on it and all! rotors need a little adjustment on the studs but that wont be too hard. one of the lockouts was a pain to get working the way it should cuz when the lockout was in free position it was wanting to lock in and a few teeth were grinding. took a lil afro mechanics but its workin correctly again!! ;D
got the truck back last week. trans is awsome!!! wheel bearing decided to take a p00 today in the passenger front side. got it changed in an hour and a half!! record time for my dad and i!!
;D
shock mount/leaf spring top plate
steering stabilizer on. found a few of the peices in the junkyard and thanks to a buddy for the stabalizer off his truck. THANK YOU ALEC!!
broke down and just bought the ord pitman arm. dont wanna mess with a bunch of pitman arms hoping theyd work when were already building out own crossover steering system! 105 total dollars for the thing... ==sick
main beam for the front all done. added a reese hitch receiver at an angle thats more parrallel with the ground when its on the truck. all welded in. it just needs paint!
Lookin good!
the hommade rear shackle hanger for the front leafs. took a set of autozone frop shackles that the s10s use and hacked off the bushing part and welded that to the bracket for a bushing to use the easier to make straight shackles due to out constraints with room from the trans shifter lever. just need to burn in the rest of the welds and drill the mounting holes and its good to go too!
This build is lookin sweet!
Quote from: bowtieguy on May 11, 2010, 02:36:53 PM
This build is lookin sweet!
more to come! its all goin on it memorial weekend!! i doubt it will be road worthy by tuesday but im gonna give it one helluva shot!! CANT WAIT!!!
decided to finally get rid of the duralast bs and put some REAL parts on it!
i took the time to make the wires nice and neat on it
paint master 2.0
axle all painted now too! cant wait for it to be under the truck!!!! ;D
==hurryup 17 more hours to go!!!!!!! yeahh
3 years of dreaming
6 months of planning
5 SOLID days of research(login time ;D)
3 months worth of weekends fabricating
2 people(father &son)
1 truck
cant wait till its finally up in the air!!! yeahh
==takeapic will be coming!!!!!
==wrenchinbanana woho chevv woho ==wrenchinbanana
out with the old, in with the "new"!!
the beggining
looks like a baja truck!!!
END OF DAY 1 all the ifs taken off the truck!
rails all clean
its empty under there....
pitman arm on
got a lil sidetracked with the next project...
main beam on, front leaf bolts on
rear shackles on. after half a day of beating on the exhaust to get the damn pass side bracket to fit.... can ya tell?
END OF DAY 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7 INCHES!!
==cl Lookin' good!
Quote from: TBigLug on May 30, 2010, 10:11:53 AM
==cl Lookin' good!
x2
you going to remove the uca bracket's?
Good job so far, cant wait to see it all done...on a side note for cleaning up your wheels use baking soda in the blaster!
homemade crossover steering bar
the leaf packs we put in. makes 6 inches of lift and 3/4 ton leaf strength! and they still flex when ya jump on the back
finally standing on its own! got a set of 1 inch lift blocks still so im gonna throw them on in the morning and adjust the rear brake bracket position and the rear should be good to go other than gear ratio needs to be changed
Quote from: camok10 on May 31, 2010, 02:31:36 AM
Quote from: Kyle on May 31, 2010, 12:21:01 AM
Quote from: camok10 on May 30, 2010, 01:40:18 PM
Quote from: TBigLug on May 30, 2010, 10:11:53 AM
==cl Lookin' good!
x2
you going to remove the uca bracket's?
uca brackets?
the upper contol arm bracket's
no i need them for my custom fabbed shock mount brackets. i coulda cut em off and used the old shock bracket to a tab the previous owner had on the axle and ran a single shock setup but id rather run duals which means i need em for bracket mounting. i dont mind seeing em on there anyways
needed a 1in block to level it out. came with the rear u-bolts so i wasnt out anything ;D call it lucky guess
lookin real good
its gettin there... stil got alot of odds and ends still to go before its dune ready...
Not to fond of those aluminum cheap blocks from autozone if thats what those are. I trusted them on my lowered s10 but i wouldnt on a big truck.
Let me know what you end up doing for your rear brake line im still stuck with that on my burb
Truck looks good though
Quote from: JaiDeeEmm on June 02, 2010, 01:30:17 AM
Not to fond of those aluminum cheap blocks from autozone if thats what those are. I trusted them on my lowered s10 but i wouldnt on a big truck.
Let me know what you end up doing for your rear brake line im still stuck with that on my burb
Truck looks good though
it is the one from autozone.... but its only 1 inch... i dont think much could happen with that little bit.
as for brake lines, with the stock line on there we twisted the bracket thats on the frame towards the back a lil and that made the STOCK line long enough to reach the axle at its stock position even with the axle weight holding the springs down(we jacked up the back end from the hitch so the axle was up off the ground and hanging on its own) and it was streched out fairly straight but was still long enough to work. and this is with 7 inches of lift on the homemade 3/4 ton leafs(took the bottom 3 short leafs off of a 10in lift 52" eye to eye leaf spring set and put them on there which gave it some arc as see in pics). lines will be here today or tommorow. it was a set of pro comp 0-6 inch lift line kit. if ya buy a line thats too short just get a short hard line and a metal plate, drill a hole and extend the frame bracket down further to take up that gap is what i would do. if it helps at all i can measure the line's length for ya so u can compare that length to what ur axle sits at relaxed height
all 6 are finally assembled!! parts had arrived last night! yeahh
shocks can be a bugger at times to get all the bushings in good job!
Quote from: JaiDeeEmm on June 04, 2010, 01:51:16 AM
shocks can be a bugger at times to get all the bushings in good job!
only took 2 hours on the bench vise, a few sockets and a hammer!! loll damn pressed fittings!
gotta admit thats a nice job you did on the conversion, nice and solid. the alum blocks can crack or even just compress enough that the rear end will walk when you get on the gas (speaking from experience) keep an eye on them retorq every so often and you should be ok.
great job!
Quote from: jeepster95 on June 04, 2010, 04:44:04 PM
gotta admit thats a nice job you did on the conversion, nice and solid. the alum blocks can crack or even just compress enough that the rear end will walk when you get on the gas (speaking from experience) keep an eye on them retorq every so often and you should be ok.
great job!
thanks man! i appreciate it.
and i didnt realize they could do that. i will keep a closer eye on em then
da turdyfivers!!
thats my best freinds 79 camaro!
this shoulda been done a LONG time ago!
turned out nice!!!
look's real good, good job
pulled the driveshaft apart to see how we could lengthen it
pic 1
ground down some of the splines so the shaft can travel out further
pic2
clearenced the flange for more room for the driveshaft yoke
pic3
ground down all 4 ends for more room
pic4
what the shaft looks like all put back together. gave me approx. another inch of extension
that took care of my driveshaft issues, now for the rear axle and ill be ready to run in some boggs!! ==wazup
got the rearend torn apart today. rind and pinion is off the planetaries along with ALL OF THE BERAINGS! ==pissed they were shot just like how whoever did the rear seal on the truck last! pullhairr hopefully with a lil more luck well have it back together with the 4.10s ==dontwannaseeit
sweet build, thats some sick fab work righ there..hell i bought a dodge so i wouldnt have to mess with a straight axle swap..lol..looks like a boughten kit..great work
Quote from: dodgeramsport on July 10, 2010, 03:38:04 AM
sweet build, thats some sick fab work righ there..hell i bought a dodge so i wouldnt have to mess with a straight axle swap..lol..looks like a boughten kit..great work
thanks man! thats what we were goin for
i hope i never have to do a R&P swap ever again.... we managed to get everything apart and all ready to get put back together and marked with ease.... but after 5 hours of constant shim changes and pinion removal havent gotten it right yet... ==pissed goin back out tonight after dinner to keep tryin... prayy
Good work on the swap. Truck is looking great! Big difference.
Quote from: four_by_ken on July 11, 2010, 04:12:53 PM
Good work on the swap. Truck is looking great! Big difference.
definately is!
ring and pinion in. got it the best we could. just needs to be broken in prayy it says all together and works right!
SHES FINALLY CLEAR FOR TAKEOFF!!!! well jumping dunes that is... after 6 total hours of grinding with a dremel tool and a sanding stone(for a drill) the yoke on the front axle finally allows the front driveshaft to completely rotate at full droop with no issues!!! ==whew
Nice truck. How does it ride? I had to go to a single shock set up in the front because it was so stiff but i used the cheepest shocks i could find. They practically froze the suspension and broke the hoops after i launched it a couple times.
Quote from: pitbull35 on July 25, 2010, 09:26:15 PM
Nice truck. How does it ride? I had to go to a single shock set up in the front because it was so stiff but i used the cheepest shocks i could find. They practically froze the suspension and broke the hoops after i launched it a couple times.
the was it rides depends on the terrain... in town goin slow it likes to bounce but offroad and high speeds its pretty smooth. the back is the worst cuz i added 3 leafs to it and had to do nitro shocks cuz summit was outta the hydros(but im not complainin cuz the back end hooks awsome now even with the open diff)... and the front aint too bad tho, needs a new set of leafs cuz theyre extremely old and sag an inch...
and i plan on gettin up to the dunes soon so ill be able to test the strength of my welds there ;)
Nice work!! I missed this whole build, wish i would have followed it!!
Quote from: 84Chevy on July 27, 2010, 05:37:04 PM
Nice work!! I missed this whole build, wish i would have followed it!!
dont worry! all the pics are here of it!!! and theres plenty more to still come, bigger motor, bigger bumpers and anythin else i can come up with! ;D
My question is how come you didnt upgrade to atleast 3/4??? I plan to SAS my 99 some day when money allows.I already have a 8 lug front, still need the rear and a pass. drop tcase to bolt to my 4l60e.
Quote from: 84Chevy on July 27, 2010, 05:48:55 PM
My question is how come you didnt upgrade to atleast 3/4??? I plan to SAS my 99 some day when money allows.I already have a 8 lug front, still need the rear and a pass. drop tcase to bolt to my 4l60e.
i bought the wheels first... which was stupid on my part. im goin to put a 14 bolt ff in later too. the 44 front should be just fine for 35s. and i hope it makes some people look twice seein a ford front axle and a 1 ton in the back when they never were 6 lug. its just somethin different i guess than the standard axle swaps the EVERYBODY does
id just watch out for the drop tcase... ur gonna have to cut into the trans crossmember to make it fit and to clear the driveshaft. the setup in completely different from a solid axle chevy in an ifs one... and be ready to so some grinding on the driveshaft and the pinion yoke to clear the angles and length depending on how big ya go
trucks looks good man better to build than buy ==kp
Quote from: Jjay78 on July 27, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
trucks looks good man better to build than buy ==kp
thanks man! learn more building it all too!
eat that p00 reese!! 10" drop, all solid steel. FRICKEN HEAVY!!!! ==rocks
cool truck
one thing in my opinion..im not trying to make any drama or nothing...but go to advance auto instead of auto zone and get new blocks...steel blocks..them aluminum ones will bend out and the perch will go up into it..mess up the block.then axle can shift then you will blow about 3 drive shafts before you find out whats wrong...well thats what happend to me with aluminum blocks...you might be okay with aluminums since its only a 1'' long as you dont have much wieght on it...but all together...nice f%#@g truck...
just went through this whole thread, nice job, well done!
Quote from: chevroletj5 on August 02, 2010, 02:49:58 AM
one thing in my opinion..im not trying to make any drama or nothing...but go to advance auto instead of auto zone and get new blocks...steel blocks..them aluminum ones will bend out and the perch will go up into it..mess up the block.then axle can shift then you will blow about 3 drive shafts before you find out whats wrong...well thats what happend to me with aluminum blocks...you might be okay with aluminums since its only a 1'' long as you dont have much wieght on it...but all together...nice f%#@g truck...
i didnt realize advanced had the steel ones... and i pobably will be gettin rid of em when i get some new front leafs. these leafs smashed like 2 inches down cuz theyre so wworn and my tires and fender aint gettin along too well on tight turns lol. so depending on how much higher a new set of front leafs put me up ill prolly have to get a bigger one anyways. and hey man, opinions are GOOD in my book! im always lookin for ideas to make it better and what i need to keep an eye out for
Quote from: savon on August 05, 2010, 06:52:18 PM
just went through this whole thread, nice job, well done!
and thanks guys! glad ya think so!! ==wrenchinbanana
had some fun at drummond island with my dad. hit the orv trails not realizing it was all rocks and we couldnt move faster than 2mph.... after 5 miles of it taking the long route we did we decided it was enough... his stock truck didnt have the ground clearence for all the boulders strewn through the water holes. was the first true test of the sas and it worked AMAZING!!! ==dancinbanana
cool truck
well got to finaly test out the trucks boggin abilities!! did pretty darn good in 2 wheel and in 4. was out at bearswamp mud run with 2 freinds in their jeeps. i ended up breakin my drivers side lockout so i had no 4 wheel half the time and didnt realize it. it made me give up early and thats why the jeeps had more mud on them... pit was kinda dry but there was some deep wet parts and u could still sink in well in the dryer areas. was a good day of boggin! ==thumbsup
Quote from: Kyle on May 04, 2010, 04:26:52 PM
steering stabilizer on. found a few of the peices in the junkyard and thanks to a buddy for the stabalizer off his truck. THANK YOU ALEC!!
WHOA i was known before i was know. its a freaking stabilizer and i had no use for it! thanks for lifting the camaro outta the ditch!
MORE PICTURES! MORE MUD! and if i get that truck, you, me, 35's, and lots of gas are headed to Silver!
Quote from: 7d9_z28 on August 17, 2010, 11:37:38 AM
MORE PICTURES! MORE MUD! and if i get that truck, you, me, 35's, and lots of gas are headed to Silver!
already plannin on it!!! i was thinkin bout a trip either fiday the 10th or saturday the 11th of september!! possibly getin a few people together for it. and were headin back out to allegan on the 19th for that bog again
yeahh
1 question if u were to stand by it with 7 inches of total lift where is it at height wise to u?
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on September 03, 2010, 04:41:50 AM
1 question if u were to stand by it with 7 inches of total lift where is it at height wise to u?
before or after 35s? and would it matter with ya standing next to it?
after 35s im jw wondering becuz i wanted to see how tall it is im a lil over 6 ft
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on September 04, 2010, 01:43:04 AM
after 35s im jw wondering becuz i wanted to see how tall it is im a lil over 6 ft
window line is about where my shoulders are... im like 510-511
k thanks
lil somethin i came up with in my spare time... still needs duct work
got her all cleaned up for the Cars for Cancer car show... cleanest the ol girl has ever been!!! was lucky enough to even take 3rd place!!!
Truck looked good,congrats on 3rd
I didnt see ya over at the monster trucks, should have stopped by
Quote from: shortiron on September 06, 2010, 09:38:20 PM
Truck looked good,congrats on 3rd
I didnt see ya over at the monster trucks, should have stopped by
thanks man! i was over by the monster trucks earlier in the mornin... i love them things so there wasnt much new to me other than the mud! still love em tho!
Everyone always asks me what I do with it,now they know.lol
Quote from: shortiron on September 06, 2010, 11:35:38 PM
Everyone always asks me what I do with it,now they know.lol
i think anybody that asks u that has issues... what else would ya do with a truck that high and tires that big? lol
hit up silver lake this mornin!! wasnt bad out there, just.... wet.... got soaked to the bone but it was worth it!! first pic was the first time that truck has crested test hill. truck did awsome and held up great! went anywhere i wanted to go. but it wouldnt hurt to get a few more horses under the hood ;D
had some fun out at allegan today! bent the drivers side spindle steering arm(the part that connects to the steering bar) in a bit so the truck is gonna be pigeon toed for a while... got sum vids before it did it tho!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyj5A0lbaxw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM0ReIFtX7s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDnH2lKgfxU
;D
==kv ==kp applaudd
well got the truck put back together and steering realigned today. shes back on the road again!!
sweet
applaudd nice work on that sas real good lookin truck . 8) a=f chevv ==rf ==kv ==kp ++peace
Quote from: 4xjeepfreak on September 26, 2010, 05:38:03 AM
applaudd nice work on that sas real good lookin truck . 8) a=f chevv ==rf ==kv ==kp ++peace
thanks man! appreciate it!
hard to beleive i havent updated this in a while... got the front axle all cleaned out now so its done boggin for the year but ill still trail ride with it and play in the snow banks ;) tested out the hitch today at a buddies house and moved a tri-axle horse trailer from the 70s with mostly flat tires, suprisingly held up well!! ;D
been lookin into a 400 sbc to rebuild and put in it in the spring/summer next year!! ==wazup
heres the 400!! yeahh
built some workbench/shelf space for the parts of the motor and got it on the engine stand. manifolds, accessories, and timing cover all off. its def a high nickel block yeahh
got the motor stripped down to the shortblock today. its definately not the nicest block around but i know theres worse out there. its a 79. it looks like there may have been some heating issues around the number 4-6 cylinder cuz the bolt came out almost blueish like it was majorly overheated. inside was pretty crusty like it has gone through some neglect... but havent broken any bolts off in it yet... knock on wood... took a dial guage to the worst cylinder walls and got a close measurement, like .012 - .015ish per side considerin it wasnt a good direct measurement cuz it was at an angle. so looks like its gonna need at least a .030 bore
got it all torn down today... it had major bearing issues. none of em were anywheres near normal wear. found out most of the rods(except cyl 3,4) hand numbers punched into the rods and caps and all the main caps had punch marks in it. so it was torn down at some point for SOMETHING. was not lookin too good down there. looked like there was some sand or something in the system. the cam wouldnt even slide out of the block cuz of block warpage or somethin. had to tap it out wth a hammer and block of wood. not to mention that cam was startin to show porosity and a few places had burn marks where the lifters werent hitting it, not to mention none of the lifters were shiny like theyre supposed to be from riding on the cam
so glad i didnt just drop it into the truck and hope it would go ==doh ==doh ==doh ==doh ==doh
finally had some time to open up the new dremel tool and start the work on the chambers
wow they look pretty dirty
before and after gasket matching
nice work
finished pocket porting the heads today, dropped all the parts off to my buddy that works at a machine shop to get miced up and cleaned all up! ++peace
but as i was on my way home and i was taking a turn my driveshaft seemed to have come disloged from my truck.... ==doh the rear ujoint at the pig had a bearing cap burn out or somethin so i locked the hubs kicked it in 4 and got it outta the way, picked up the shaft and started heading down the road with only fwd... heres where another problem developed:
when i was going down the road the front end seemed to vibrate massively, not shimmy back and forth but like up and down... so i couldnt go more than like 15 and my dad and i are completely baffled as to why it would do that when it rides just fine in 2wheel
just a lil somethin i dug up ;D
.....
well heres the bad news:
found out today that there are 3 exhaust valves with cracked seats from them just checking it over before the magnafluxing, so now theres a chance the guides may be no good.... so all of that porting work and i hours i put into it are WORTH NOTHING ==kk so it back to the drawing board! gonna just find me some vortec heads and have some steam hiles drilled in em and call it good. cant argue with the best flowing production cast iron head gm has ever made
Quote from: Kyle on January 12, 2011, 05:18:20 AM
well heres the bad news:
found out today that there are 3 exhaust valves with cracked seats from them just checking it over before the magnafluxing, so now theres a chance the guides may be no good.... so all of that porting work and i hours i put into it are WORTH NOTHING ==kk so it back to the drawing board! gonna just find me some vortec heads and have some steam hiles drilled in em and call it good. cant argue with the best flowing production cast iron head gm has ever made
unless you want more torque below 4500 rpm then swirl port's are were it's at
Quote from: camok10 on January 12, 2011, 04:30:45 PM
Quote from: Kyle on January 12, 2011, 05:18:20 AM
well heres the bad news:
found out today that there are 3 exhaust valves with cracked seats from them just checking it over before the magnafluxing, so now theres a chance the guides may be no good.... so all of that porting work and i hours i put into it are WORTH NOTHING ==kk so it back to the drawing board! gonna just find me some vortec heads and have some steam hiles drilled in em and call it good. cant argue with the best flowing production cast iron head gm has ever made
unless you want more torque below 4500 rpm then swirl port's are were it's at
i do want more torque below 4500 rpms, cuz i rarely run it that high... im building it for low end torque, not to run the rev limiter to get power
vortec's are only better flowing than a swirl port above 4500 rpm and for that low end torque your going to want smaller runner's nothing huge. you would probably be better with just minimal porting and gasket matching. when you polish a runner you loose some of the help that the rough casting give's you to atomize the air fuel mixture. the polish on the high rpm motor's because there is enough velocity in the runner's it dosent need that help atomizing the fuel. but when there at idle they love to load up because it's just dripping the fuel in off the walls because it dosent have that atomization thats why the have to rev up and clean them out.
Quote from: camok10 on January 12, 2011, 05:05:00 PM
vortec's are only better flowing than a swirl port above 4500 rpm and for that low end torque your going to want smaller runner's nothing huge. you would probably be better with just minimal porting and gasket matching. when you polish a runner you loose some of the help that the rough casting give's you to atomize the air fuel mixture. the polish on the high rpm motor's because there is enough velocity in the runner's it dosent need that help atomizing the fuel. but when there at idle they love to load up because it's just dripping the fuel in off the walls because it dosent have that atomization thats why the have to rev up and clean them out.
yea that is true. but i gotta fuel an extra 50 cubes, and the stock heads(which are NOT swirl ports) only had a 1.50 ehaust valve cuz the engine was from towards the end of their era when emmisions were getting strict. vortecs not only have bigger runners but have bigger valves in the heads, which will help out greatly with the fact that its an undervalved motor to begin with
swirl port's are the centerbolt head's find a set of 64's with a 1.6 exhaust and you should have plenty enough head if it's not something crazy
here is the 5.7 vortec head it also has a 1.5 exhaust valve
10239906...96-up...350.........."Vortec 5700", "L31", 64cc chamber,
170cc intake port, 1.94"/1.5" valves
this site went under but you can find it in web archive's it has almost every gm casting number
http://web.archive.org/web/20080506065350/www.mortec.com/castnum.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20080506065350/www.mortec.com/castnum.htm)
alright ill def have to look into the valve size more with the heads then... didnt realize there were so many different ones in the vortecs... and it seems like every engine building book/site that i read says that the vortec heads are the way to go
what are the books for hp or general info? yes for horsepower vortec's are very good but as i said if it isnt going to see much over 4500 rpm a stock 64 cc tbi head will actually help produce more torque bel;ow 4500. i had a set of 76 cc 194/160 head's on a crate 350 with about a 9-1 comp and ~ 488 lift cam along with a wiend (sp) intake and i could run 7000 rpm with a 600 cfm carb befor it ran out of breath. it's all in component matching and building it for the aplication. if you get a low rpm cam idle to 5000 or so and run an 9.1 to 9.5 to one comp ratio along with portmatching and the 400's big bore/ stoke you will have a torque monster. or you cold go completly the other way and destroke from the 3.75 stroke the a 3.48 stroke with a 350 crank and have a motor capable of running upwards of 8000 rpm but you would have very low torque
but i will say if your building the motor to run up to around 5500-6000 vortech's would be a very good choice
are you going to 4v or tbi it
Quote from: camok10 on January 12, 2011, 06:03:35 PM
what are the books for hp or general info?
it's all in component matching and building it for the aplication. if you get a low rpm cam idle to 5000 or so and run an 9.1 to 9.5 to one comp ratio along with portmatching and the 400's big bore/ stoke you will have a torque monster.
are you going to 4v or tbi it
the books are for budget nuilding horsepower and rebuilding
and the way u described it there ^^ is pretty close to what i was trying to do. its a 1k-5500 rpm cam and it shoud run mid 9s for compression i think... and its gonna have a 4 barrel offroad carb for now and maybe down the road switch to holley's self adjusting standalone 4 barrel tbi unit
i would say then if your going to run those rpm find a cam with charetistic's you want get an intake to match the rpm of the cam part match the intake to which ever head's you decide to use. i personally still use swirl port's there cheaper and much more abundent and with a little port work should be plenty enough for you. how about bottom end what are your plan's for that? a 400 uses a 5.8xx(iirc) rod and most aftermarket pistons require a 5.7 or 6" rod unless it's a stock replacement piston
Quote from: camok10 on January 12, 2011, 06:54:35 PM
i would say then if your going to run those rpm find a cam with charetistic's you want get an intake to match the rpm of the cam part match the intake to which ever head's you decide to use. i personally still use swirl port's there cheaper and much more abundent and with a little port work should be plenty enough for you. how about bottom end what are your plan's for that? a 400 uses a 5.8xx(iirc) rod and most aftermarket pistons require a 5.7 or 6" rod unless it's a stock replacement piston
stock bottom end, just .030 over pistons. keepin it cheap. and i beleive it has a 5.565 rod....
that sounds right loll sounds like you got it pretty much planed out
this info blows my mind! i dont understand half of it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/techinfo/heads1.html#Pro%20Lightning%20180 (http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/techinfo/heads1.html#Pro%20Lightning%20180)
the .100, .200 amd so on is cam lift at a .050 duration and the number's across from them represent the airflow through the runer's int/exh i belive in cfm
Quote from: Kyle on September 20, 2010, 02:19:59 AM
had some fun out at allegan today! bent the drivers side spindle steering arm(the part that connects to the steering bar) in a bit so the truck is gonna be pigeon toed for a while... got sum vids before it did it tho!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM0ReIFtX7s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM0ReIFtX7s)
see how many tractors it takes to pull out a chevy =P nice truck!
Quote from: Hitman89x on January 13, 2011, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: Kyle on September 20, 2010, 02:19:59 AM
had some fun out at allegan today! bent the drivers side spindle steering arm(the part that connects to the steering bar) in a bit so the truck is gonna be pigeon toed for a while... got sum vids before it did it tho!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM0ReIFtX7s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM0ReIFtX7s)
see how many tractors it takes to pull out a chevy =P nice truck!
==thumbsup was wonderin if somebody was gonna catch that part
the 4wd has been pissing me off the last few days... ==pissed still cant figure out what it is.... when i mash on the gas the front axle starts to studder a little bit and then when i let off the gas from a higher rate of speed all i hear is the ring and pinion gears crashing together as it slows down to a slower speed.... im hoping it just needs more fluid... its oddly strange it just started doin it now tho... ==censor
Axle shaft?
If you are going to run 350 heads on a 400. Have you thought about the steam ports? Just a thought.
Quote from: shortiron on January 19, 2011, 07:02:15 PM
Axle shaft?
dont think so. the 4 wheel drive still all works.... found out the ubolts are a lil loose... but the fluid is all good in the diff. i almost kinda wonder if the sound is from the ring and pinion not meshing very well because of possibly the bearing retainer caps for the carrier are loosening themselves up, almost like every other bolt on the front end lol
Quote from: spr_chicken on January 19, 2011, 08:42:34 PM
If you are going to run 350 heads on a 400. Have you thought about the steam ports? Just a thought.
yea i got a guy that works at a machine shop doin the work for me and i will be getting them put in, its gonna need all the help it can get for cooling
I was thinking maybe a bad u-joint in one of the shafts. I guess all you need to do is put rockwells in and get a set of tractor tires and all the noises go away.lol Well other than steel breaking. ;D
Quote from: shortiron on January 20, 2011, 01:37:41 PM
I was thinking maybe a bad u-joint in one of the shafts. I guess all you need to do is put rockwells in and get a set of tractor tires and all the noises go away.lol Well other than steel breaking. ;D
its very possible it could be a ujoint... ill be takin it all apart in the spring... and back when i was lookin into the sas i had thought about rockwells tho! i just gotta drive it everyday, thats why i didnt go that route lol
well took some time tonight after dinner to go outside with my dad and check out the front axle. rolled it back and forth in 4 and didnt hear anything knocking, drove up and down the road with amost no vibration(dirt road, gonna be some) so it all seemed to check out ok... i guess the ubolts being loose were the culprit, and having bad front leaf springs prolly dont help the situation much... so i decided to try and take out some snow banks that have accumulated from plowing the driveway. did ALOT better than last year when it was short! ;D
well the snowstorm was awsome for me! had to drive home from work at 2am in the worst part of it, snow flyin everywhere, at least a foot of snow in the road! that part was fun and didnt bother me or the truck one bit! but less than a half mile from the shp the wiper motor quit.... for good this time... couldnt get it to work again.... then driving home with all the lights on the truck started to stall out, alternator was goin out at low rpms... great. no wipers with winsheild iced up with just basic lights on and no heater. but for some reason i was still havin a blast! got it home, grabbed a bite and was back in the garage at 6am tearin the wiper motor out, got that fixed then tore the alternator out and got a new one for that. done by 10am. then went and played on all the backroads with the 1-2ft of snow that was still on em! had a blast, truck did excellent! but the front yard was a different story... plowed and settled snow aint as easy to get through, even with the 35s ;D
looks like a fun time!! lol
lol, wish i coulda had my truck goin then... oh well.. lol
looks like ya had a blast lol. any new updates to truck?? front end still studdering??
Quote from: betterbeaters on February 04, 2011, 06:19:05 PM
looks like a fun time!! lol
==thumbsup
Quote from: Hitman89x on February 04, 2011, 06:45:57 PM
lol, wish i coulda had my truck goin then... oh well.. lol
while my truck was down my best freind got stuck twice while he was plowing and i couldnt go and pull him out lol
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on February 04, 2011, 06:50:46 PM
looks like ya had a blast lol. any new updates to truck?? front end still studdering??
not really any updates, fixed the studdering in the front end. thats about it.... should be gettin the block back from the shop within the next few days FINALLY! been pullin some overtime lately and now that income tax is back i can start shoppin for the remaining parts. i already got everything i need for the bottom end to put back together at least ;D
lol thats good your getting it back i got my trans rebuilt and when taxes come back hoping to get axles finsihed up and buying kit
and the diamond plate valve covers.......
Quote from: 7d9_z28 on February 07, 2011, 12:04:11 PM
and the diamond plate valve covers.......
theyre currently in the design stages....
the new tow strap! close to 100lbs itself. i got the 2in 15ft strap rolled up layin on top of it just for size reference ==dancinbananaa
why so big lol??
thats ridiculous lol!
it was only used to hold barges together ;D ==roll
isnt most daimond plate aluminum?
Quote from: Hitman89x on February 14, 2011, 03:26:23 AM
isnt most daimond plate aluminum?
most of it that ya find in stores yea. gotta go to a steel place or scrap yard to get it usually. like harbor steel
Quote from: Kyle on February 14, 2011, 03:31:07 AM
Quote from: Hitman89x on February 14, 2011, 03:26:23 AM
isnt most daimond plate aluminum?
most of it that ya find in stores yea. gotta go to a steel place or scrap yard to get it usually. like harbor steel
idk this stuff was like 40 bucks a suare foot
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on February 14, 2011, 03:40:32 AM
Quote from: Kyle on February 14, 2011, 03:31:07 AM
Quote from: Hitman89x on February 14, 2011, 03:26:23 AM
isnt most daimond plate aluminum?
most of it that ya find in stores yea. gotta go to a steel place or scrap yard to get it usually. like harbor steel
idk this stuff was like 40 bucks a suare foot
if its chrome, then its aluminum
its ususally polished alum. and yeah its pricey, look around on craigslist
got the new BDS springs and bushings in last night! ;D
and the dune flags are back on it now! slowly but surely its gettin ready for copemish! bandd
What did triple a charge yah for that rope?
Quote from: 84Chevy on February 15, 2011, 08:19:11 PM
What did triple a charge yah for that rope?
i got it as payment for pullin out a fordd ;D ==rf
new bushings in the springs. who knew a hammer was so effective with pressing them in?? ready to go on the truck tommorow
well had some fun today. and got thrown for a loop at the same time. everything unbolted just fine for changing out the leaf springs. hardest part was gettin the new ones in tryin to feed it through the leaf spring topplate and the axle with the ubolts still on it. but it eventually got done without too many issues after i disconnected the front driveshaft. but when its at full droop, driveshaft no fit pullhairr so now it aint capable enough to go to the dogparty tommorow, and i was looking foreward to it too!! ==er
pic is of how bad the old leafs were. they had to go
lol at first i thought pic was of new ones i was like O.o WTF? haha yeah those had to go!
Quote from: Hitman89x on February 19, 2011, 06:54:22 AM
lol at first i thought pic was of new ones i was like O.o WTF? haha yeah those had to go!
i tried to get a pic of the new ones last night but it was just too damn dark for a good pic
heres what the new leafs look like.... i think thats a considerable difference
very haha
lookin good
Lookin good! ;D ==kp ==kp ==kp ==wgm
thanks guys!
hey hows that 400 going?? and watcha getting mpg wise with those 410s and 35s??
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on February 23, 2011, 03:05:00 AM
hey hows that 400 going?? and watcha getting mpg wise with those 410s and 35s??
400 is still under the knife.... still waiting to get it back from the machine shop... SOON hopefully.
as for mpgs i think its about 14-16 on a good day, and about 8 flyin 90mph down the express way
Quote from: Kyle on February 23, 2011, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on February 23, 2011, 03:05:00 AM
hey hows that 400 going?? and watcha getting mpg wise with those 410s and 35s??
400 is still under the knife.... still waiting to get it back from the machine shop... SOON hopefully.
as for mpgs i think its about 14-16 on a good day, and about 8 flyin 90mph down the express way
lol is it sad that thats pretty much what i got with my beefed up 6 cyl?> lol
Quote from: Hitman89x on February 23, 2011, 07:19:18 PM
Quote from: Kyle on February 23, 2011, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on February 23, 2011, 03:05:00 AM
hey hows that 400 going?? and watcha getting mpg wise with those 410s and 35s??
400 is still under the knife.... still waiting to get it back from the machine shop... SOON hopefully.
as for mpgs i think its about 14-16 on a good day, and about 8 flyin 90mph down the express way
lol is it sad that thats pretty much what i got with my beefed up 6 cyl?> lol
chevv POWER!! ==roll
well picked up the new heads today! found me some dart iron eagles! 2.02/1.60 valves, camp cams roller tip rockers and .500 lift springs! all for $500 yeahh the guy said they had less than 10 hours worth of run time on them since they were redone
Nice find =) im trying to locate alum. 302 heads =P
Quote from: Hitman89x on February 27, 2011, 02:04:44 AM
Nice find =) im trying to locate alum. 302 heads =P
movin on to chevy motors now huh? ==roll *hint* chevy 302...
NO WAY! ford 302 =) goin for 350 HP
Quote from: Hitman89x on February 27, 2011, 06:23:11 AM
NO WAY! ford 302 =) goin for 350 HP
thatl give it a lil more pep! hope the drivetrain keeps it all on the ground!
You might ought to run them heads through the machine shop and have the valves and seats checked/ground. I can see in the pics that the exhaust valves are different colors, indicates possibly something going on there.. ;D
Quote from: old school truck dude on February 27, 2011, 04:38:04 PM
You might ought to run them heads through the machine shop and have the valves and seats checked/ground. I can see in the pics that the exhaust valves are different colors, indicates possibly something going on there.. ;D
different colors? these were run very few hours... could that be just cuz theres very little carbon on em? the heads were literally bein pulled off the motor when i got there to pick them up
Im concerned over the ones that have black exhaust valves. Kind of wonder why.. Also wonder why they only ran them a few hours? When you have 8 cylinders, all 8 should show uniform color, but when you have a few showin darker, it means there might be a little somethin somethin goin on there.. I like the tan ones, looks good. Opinions can differ on just exactly what "re-done" means. Could be nothin to do with the head, but definitely worth lookin into before motor is assembled just to be on the safe side.. Murphy's law.. It does sort of look like the fuel mix was good for the middle cylinders and not so good for the cylinders on the ends. Still a real good deal, great find! JMO ;D
he didnt run them long cause the bottom end took a p00. cant remember what exactly it was...
pistons all looked good when the heads came off too
Quote from: old school truck dude on February 27, 2011, 08:40:02 PM
It does sort of look like the fuel mix was good for the middle cylinders and not so good for the cylinders on the ends.
possibly single plane intake it would get a good mix to the middle 4 but not so much to the outer 4?
Quote from: 7d9_z28 on February 27, 2011, 10:24:06 PM
he didnt run them long cause the bottom end took a p00. cant remember what exactly it was...
pistons all looked good when the heads came off too
rod started knockin cuz the HV oil pump sucked the pan dry
Quote from: old school truck dude on February 27, 2011, 08:40:02 PM
Im concerned over the ones that have black exhaust valves. Kind of wonder why.. Also wonder why they only ran them a few hours? When you have 8 cylinders, all 8 should show uniform color, but when you have a few showin darker, it means there might be a little somethin somethin goin on there.. I like the tan ones, looks good. Opinions can differ on just exactly what "re-done" means. Could be nothin to do with the head, but definitely worth lookin into before motor is assembled just to be on the safe side.. Murphy's law.. It does sort of look like the fuel mix was good for the middle cylinders and not so good for the cylinders on the ends. Still a real good deal, great find! JMO ;D
on the far left cylinder i had used my finger and rubbed some of the carbon off. the middle 2 were basically untouched and the far right one im pretty sure it had some coolant on it and it looks like some of the carbon was falling off too. i do kinda see what ur talking about tho... and to be clear i had REALLY poor lighting when i took the pictures
Quote from: Kyle on February 27, 2011, 11:17:37 PM
Quote from: 7d9_z28 on February 27, 2011, 10:24:06 PM
he didnt run them long cause the bottom end took a p00. cant remember what exactly it was...
pistons all looked good when the heads came off too
rod started knockin cuz the HV oil pump sucked the pan dry
Quote from: old school truck dude on February 27, 2011, 08:40:02 PM
Im concerned over the ones that have black exhaust valves. Kind of wonder why.. Also wonder why they only ran them a few hours? When you have 8 cylinders, all 8 should show uniform color, but when you have a few showin darker, it means there might be a little somethin somethin goin on there.. I like the tan ones, looks good. Opinions can differ on just exactly what "re-done" means. Could be nothin to do with the head, but definitely worth lookin into before motor is assembled just to be on the safe side.. Murphy's law.. It does sort of look like the fuel mix was good for the middle cylinders and not so good for the cylinders on the ends. Still a real good deal, great find! JMO ;D
on the far left cylinder i had used my finger and rubbed some of the carbon off. the middle 2 were basically untouched and the far right one im pretty sure it had some coolant on it and it looks like some of the carbon was falling off too. i do kinda see what ur talking about tho... and to be clear i had REALLY poor lighting when i took the pictures
I like to have all my stuff i buy checked out anyway even if it looks good.. pulled heads off my 2.9 looked good didnt see any cracks till took them in and the found one massive crack... always good to be sure =) only cost afew bucks at that..
Yup, I pretty much question everything especially when it gets up in the hundreds of dollars ;D
Quote from: old school truck dude on February 28, 2011, 02:12:32 PM
Yup, I pretty much question everything especially when it gets up in the hundreds of dollars ;D
hey thats not a problem with me! i appreciate ya pointin that out to me! i do appreciate any input on anything, im still learnin what all to look for
Quote from: 84Chevy on July 27, 2010, 05:48:55 PM
My question is how come you didnt upgrade to atleast 3/4??? I plan to SAS my 99 some day when money allows.I already have a 8 lug front, still need the rear and a pass. drop tcase to bolt to my 4l60e.
they make a pass side drop tcase for a 4l60e?? i have one in my 94 and gettin a pass side drop would make getting a axle easier
do you have any upclose pics of leaf spring top plates and upper shock mounts?
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on March 02, 2011, 04:01:53 AM
Quote from: 84Chevy on July 27, 2010, 05:48:55 PM
My question is how come you didnt upgrade to atleast 3/4??? I plan to SAS my 99 some day when money allows.I already have a 8 lug front, still need the rear and a pass. drop tcase to bolt to my 4l60e.
they make a pass side drop tcase for a 4l60e?? i have one in my 94 and gettin a pass side drop would make getting a axle easier
passenger drop 241 should bolt right up to it
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on March 02, 2011, 04:09:34 AM
do you have any upclose pics of leaf spring top plates and upper shock mounts?
theres pics on here for the top plates, aint gonna get much better for those. as for upper shock mounts, which parts are u more concerned about?
Nice build!
well got the front driveshaft back from D&R Driveline yesterday. got it all clearenced at the pinion yoke and flange again so its all good to go!
the angle on the bottom looks ridiculous lol, have any problems there?
Quote from: Hitman89x on March 02, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
the angle on the bottom looks ridiculous lol, have any problems there?
a couple.... nothin a couple hours and a dremel tool couldnt fix ;D
well i just wanted to see where you hooked your shock at the top.
Quote from: Kyle on March 02, 2011, 07:29:44 PM
Quote from: Hitman89x on March 02, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
the angle on the bottom looks ridiculous lol, have any problems there?
a couple.... nothin a couple hours and a dremel tool couldnt fix ;D
You figure to shim the axle a bit, maybe? Hey about how much was the driveshaft, just outta curiousity?
ive always liked this body style for a truck and all the mods u have done to it make the truck stand out in agood way
Quote from: old school truck dude on March 03, 2011, 12:25:10 AM
Quote from: Kyle on March 02, 2011, 07:29:44 PM
Quote from: Hitman89x on March 02, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
the angle on the bottom looks ridiculous lol, have any problems there?
a couple.... nothin a couple hours and a dremel tool couldnt fix ;D
You figure to shim the axle a bit, maybe? Hey about how much was the driveshaft, just outta curiousity?
yea i had thrown around the idea if i ran into too many issues with the new one goin back in. i just wanted to keep most of the axle angles as close to stock as possible cuz it gets DD more than bogged. i had it lengthened 1.5" for 80 bucks. i beleive they can make a whole new one for 180 bucks. they just dont have any high angle shafts
Quote from: Woody JR on March 03, 2011, 01:18:06 AM
ive always liked this body style for a truck and all the mods u have done to it make the truck stand out in agood way
thanks man! appreciate it! ++peace ive always like this body style too, thats why i got it. ive been tryin to make it a "clean" build and not look like somethin was just cobbled together
nice truck i like step sides to
(http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae313/jgm347/DSC00591.jpg) (http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae313/jgm347/DSC00591.jpg)
Quote from: trailman on March 03, 2011, 06:16:21 PM
nice truck i like step sides to
thats a really nice truck! i like it!
well i got bored and thought itd be a good time to break in the newly lengthened front driveshaft.... ;D cool thing was i still had traction when i stopped. and thats a 3-4ft snowbank. very suprised at how much workable flex it has
nice pics i like it =) keep up the good work, cant wait to show off my truck =P
==kp ==kp ==kp ==wgm
Quote from: Hitman89x on March 05, 2011, 06:32:48 AM
nice pics i like it =) keep up the good work, cant wait to show off my truck =P
Quote from: old school truck dude on March 05, 2011, 03:39:34 PM
==kp ==kp ==kp ==wgm
thanks guys ==thumbsup
NICE!!
Quote from: old school truck dude on March 05, 2011, 03:39:34 PM
==kp ==kp ==kp ==wgm
hey wats the width and length on those spring plates wanting to fab my own up and need to know how big to make them and drill holes?
Quote from: Kyle on May 30, 2010, 01:45:44 AM
rails all clean
its empty under there....
for your upper shock mounts are you using the two outside brackets?
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on March 08, 2011, 04:17:51 AM
Quote from: old school truck dude on March 05, 2011, 03:39:34 PM
==kp ==kp ==kp ==wgm
hey wats the width and length on those spring plates wanting to fab my own up and need to know how big to make them and drill holes?
the u bolts i had were 3 5/8" OC and they were 3 1/2" apart OC from eachother and the one ubolt that goes around the pig i heated up and rebent it till it was 4" OC. i drilled my holes to 1/2" which is the size of the ubolts and it was really tight, id drill it out to at least 9/16" and just use a washer on it
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on March 08, 2011, 04:29:35 AM
Quote from: Kyle on May 30, 2010, 01:45:44 AM
rails all clean
its empty under there....
for your upper shock mounts are you using the two outside brackets?
i thought i already had this pic up, guess not. but heres what they look like and where they are bolted up to
the re-lengthened rear driveshaft ;D still debating whether i should paint it like the old one or keep it the way it is for a while ???
Quote from: Kyle on March 09, 2011, 04:01:01 PM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on March 08, 2011, 04:29:35 AM
Quote from: Kyle on May 30, 2010, 01:45:44 AM
rails all clean
its empty under there....
for your upper shock mounts are you using the two outside brackets?
i thought i already had this pic up, guess not. but heres what they look like and where they are bolted up to
how hard was this thing to make?
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on March 09, 2011, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: Kyle on March 09, 2011, 04:01:01 PM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on March 08, 2011, 04:29:35 AM
Quote from: Kyle on May 30, 2010, 01:45:44 AM
rails all clean
its empty under there....
for your upper shock mounts are you using the two outside brackets?
i thought i already had this pic up, guess not. but heres what they look like and where they are bolted up to
how hard was this thing to make?
well.... i wouldnt say hard.... time consuming, YES. the tab that mounts in the back center has about 5 different angles that had to be bent into the tab of steel to make it all line up the way we wanted to. otherwise the side legs werent too hard. just needed cardboard to make a template
well yesterday i decided to hack off the ehaust pipes behind the mufflers. exhaust has been fallin apart and leakin lately, so now it has turn downs just in front of the wheel well and made a new hanger to hold the back of the pipes up there. truck seems to have a lower rumble beace its echoing from under the bed. should do for now! ++peace
psh just get rid of the mufflers and pipe headers all the way ;)
Quote from: Hitman89x on March 20, 2011, 08:34:59 PM
psh just get rid of the mufflers and pipe headers all the way ;)
it crossed my mind ;D
abandoned project:
1/4 diamond plate as a skid plate and part of the oil pan to deepen it to make it a 7qt pan.... the sheet metal on the base started cracking and leaking when we tested it in spots and brazing wasnt gonna be enough. didnt wanna push it and run the risk of it cracking more while on the truck when its getting slammed around
Ah, theres somethin funny about the metal they use on oil pans and stuff sometimes.. Idk what it is, but just dont seem to do right.. Might be oil saturated or somethin, sometimes it works out ok, sometimes it dont. Dont feel bad about it, it happens.. ;D
Quote from: old school truck dude on March 27, 2011, 09:07:48 PM
Ah, theres somethin funny about the metal they use on oil pans and stuff sometimes.. Idk what it is, but just dont seem to do right.. Might be oil saturated or somethin, sometimes it works out ok, sometimes it dont. Dont feel bad about it, it happens.. ;D
yea but i wasnt havin issues witht that metal, it was with the fresh metal i had for the base down by the seems. i think it was cuz of all the heating and cooling that it went through and stess on it. i used some thin sheet metal mad a big long hairline crack bout 1/2" above the bottom edge above where i welded the drain plug
silver lake opens up tommorrow..... thats all i have to add ;D
well took the truck up to silver lake today! didnt have any major problems(other than the battery becoming dislodged and shorting the truck out momentarily on the a/c hoses). although all the bouncing around i think shifted my tcase linkages so it keeps kicking in and out of 4 wheel cuz it hits that plastic panel on the floor towards the end of the trip. so if anybody knows of some easy ways to adjust em on a np241 lemme know!
==cl
nice truck ++peace
thanks guys! ==thumbsup
saw ur truck up there looks good in person
Quote from: erikmud on April 03, 2011, 11:24:18 PM
saw ur truck up there looks good in person
thanks man! whereabouts did ya see it at?
watchin people go up and down test hill, i had the red jeep grand cherokee with the tractor tires on the rear, then when the water pump went out i took out my dodge with the flat black rims
looking good bud
Quote from: erikmud on April 04, 2011, 03:03:57 PM
watchin people go up and down test hill, i had the red jeep grand cherokee with the tractor tires on the rear, then when the water pump went out i took out my dodge with the flat black rims
alright i do remember seein the jeep, i dont remember the dodge tho. jeep looked pretty nice!
so i got bored.... should help hold the battery down better than the stock holder. and keep more dents outta the hood of the truck ==doh
that is bad ass man never thought of anything like that one before
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on April 10, 2011, 04:41:44 AM
that is bad ass man never thought of anything like that one before
thanks man. i thought id try and be a lil creative with it instead of just having some normal boring one ;D
did u weld the symbik onto holders?
Thats pretty cool right there! applaudd
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on April 10, 2011, 05:15:37 AM
did u weld the symbik onto holders?
yea its welded on from the back side to give it a cleaner look
Quote from: old school truck dude on April 10, 2011, 02:36:08 PM
Thats pretty cool right there! applaudd
thanks!
that wat i was thinking prolly drilled hole and filled it with weld??
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on April 11, 2011, 03:08:46 AM
that wat i was thinking prolly drilled hole and filled it with weld??
good try, but bowtie lays over top of the angle iron so i just welded the overlapping seem then ground it flush to keep a flat surface to the battery
i might do this lol ive never seen anything like this
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on April 11, 2011, 03:26:44 AM
i might do this lol ive never seen anything like this
go for it. thats why i did it! ;D
is that steel diamond plate or stainless or aluminum?
Quote from: Kyle on April 11, 2011, 03:28:27 AM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on April 11, 2011, 03:26:44 AM
i might do this lol ive never seen anything like this
go for it. thats why i did it! ;D
Better hurry up and get a patent on that, youll be rich beyond your wildest dreams loll
Quote from: old school truck dude on April 11, 2011, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: Kyle on April 11, 2011, 03:28:27 AM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on April 11, 2011, 03:26:44 AM
i might do this lol ive never seen anything like this
go for it. thats why i did it! ;D
Better hurry up and get a patent on that, youll be rich beyond your wildest dreams loll
==hmmm
Im not jokin.
Doesnt have to be limited to just bowties, either
dont patents cost alot of money? and theres gotta be somebody with the battery hold down patent in general id think...?
Google it and see. I think it takes more time than money, and you can make the rest of it just a little different and be ok I think.. Make it thicker n heavier for "trucks". google.. now theres a word. Kinda like bung. Bunghole. Julio Cornholio Battery Hold-downio, for your battery bunghole needs see Kyle =lmaoo
well got pulled over by a state boy not doin anything wrond and he said my truck was too high and i had too much window tint.... i only have a 5% tint on the passenger side that most dont even realize is there.... he made me get outta my truck and measure it. frame was in tolerance but the rear bumper was just a hair too high.... he gave me a "stiff" warning and wrote my name down.... so it looks like this weekend im gonna be tryin to drop my rear bumper and not make it look like a hack job ==censor
wow theres alot higher trucks on the road
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on May 03, 2011, 05:15:43 PM
wow theres alot higher trucks on the road
thats what i told him.... my rear bumper is 2 inches too high.... everything else is fine
wow he just wanted to get you for something
Quote from: Kyle on May 03, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
well got pulled over by a state boy not doin anything wrond and he said my truck was too high and i had too much window tint.... i only have a 5% tint on the passenger side that most dont even realize is there.... he made me get outta my truck and measure it. frame was in tolerance but the rear bumper was just a hair too high.... he gave me a "stiff" warning and wrote my name down.... so it looks like this weekend im gonna be tryin to drop my rear bumper and not make it look like a hack job ==censor
They stopped 5 trucks at WESCO. I was just getting ready to PM you and ask if one was you. A friend of mine described your truck as one of the 5 trucks. Next time just air down before he measures you... LOL
Quote from: Kyle on May 03, 2011, 06:13:07 PM
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on May 03, 2011, 05:15:43 PM
wow theres alot higher trucks on the road
thats what i told him.... my rear bumper is 2 inches too high.... everything else is fine
Time for a nice drop bumper or just make a removable bumper for the receiver hitch (square stock welded to an old receiver).
the front bumbers to high on the ranger and havent had a problem ???
Quote from: spr_chicken on May 04, 2011, 12:41:57 AM
Quote from: Kyle on May 03, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
well got pulled over by a state boy not doin anything wrond and he said my truck was too high and i had too much window tint.... i only have a 5% tint on the passenger side that most dont even realize is there.... he made me get outta my truck and measure it. frame was in tolerance but the rear bumper was just a hair too high.... he gave me a "stiff" warning and wrote my name down.... so it looks like this weekend im gonna be tryin to drop my rear bumper and not make it look like a hack job ==censor
They stopped 5 trucks at WESCO. I was just getting ready to PM you and ask if one was you. A friend of mine described your truck as one of the 5 trucks. Next time just air down before he measures you... LOL
yea i was one of em. lol i was on my way to work at that time too. the popo was sittin at the boat launch at the end of 144th. i saw his list of names he had and i beleive i was the 5th one he stopped too. and ill make sure to let 2 inches worth of air out of my tires next time ;D
Quote from: spr_chicken on May 04, 2011, 12:48:50 AM
Quote from: Kyle on May 03, 2011, 06:13:07 PM
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on May 03, 2011, 05:15:43 PM
wow theres alot higher trucks on the road
thats what i told him.... my rear bumper is 2 inches too high.... everything else is fine
Time for a nice drop bumper or just make a removable bumper for the receiver hitch (square stock welded to an old receiver).
well i was plannin on makin a nice big HD winch bumper sometime this year that dropped down lower anyways. just gonna have to do it sooner lol im gonna take some 2 1/2" tubing and weld some tabs on it to mount it to the bottom of the bumper for the time being. that way if they stop me again i can at least say i did TRY and do something about it ==roll
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on May 04, 2011, 04:38:05 AM
the front bumbers to high on the ranger and havent had a problem ???
he never measured my front(he did have me measure the frame tho) even tho it is literally at the limit. maybe my truck just looks bigger than it actually is?? idk or theyre just more concerned bout people not stopping and getting real aquainted with the rear diff than you just driving over them ==roll
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on May 03, 2011, 09:58:40 PM
wow he just wanted to get you for something
yea he was being VERY thourogh with his inspection on my lift. all the way down to how big my rear lift blocks were even after he measured me....
yea he was being VERY thourogh with his inspection on my lift. all the way down to how big my rear lift blocks were even after he measured me....
[/quote] wow good thing i dont have 2 3in blocks stacked it it anymore ==roll
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on May 04, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
yea he was being VERY thourogh with his inspection on my lift. all the way down to how big my rear lift blocks were even after he measured me....
wow good thing i dont have 2 3in blocks stacked it it anymore ==roll
[/quote]
o yea! they woulda definately woulda been all over you with that one! ==roll
i may not have my motor back yet but i picked up a few parts for it.... i thought this may help kick it up a notch ==djdj
wats up with the old motor run good??
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on May 09, 2011, 03:54:45 AM
wats up with the old motor run good??
runs just fine, no problems at all. its just gettin old. its got 242k+ on the odometer so its about time to get replaced
shes just getin broke in!
Quote from: Kyle on May 09, 2011, 05:00:10 AM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on May 09, 2011, 03:54:45 AM
wats up with the old motor run good??
runs just fine, no problems at all. its just gettin old. its got 242k+ on the odometer so its about time to get replaced
wat are your plans with it?? thinking of selling it?
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on May 09, 2011, 05:06:26 AM
shes just getin broke in!
im not sure i wanna find out what happens when she is broken in lol
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on May 09, 2011, 02:13:30 PM
Quote from: Kyle on May 09, 2011, 05:00:10 AM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on May 09, 2011, 03:54:45 AM
wats up with the old motor run good??
runs just fine, no problems at all. its just gettin old. its got 242k+ on the odometer so its about time to get replaced
wat are your plans with it?? thinking of selling it?
sorry not gonna be selling it. its gonna get torn down, rebuilt and then dropped in my sisters truck probably
well went and picked up my motor today AGAIN and brought it to ANOTHER machine shop! this time they miced it up with me standing right there.... turns out the first shop had rough bored it to exactly 4.155" so theres no room ro hone for the .030 over pistons and then one bore has a major gash in it and wasnt even bored right! all the first shops fault! the guy gave me a rough quote of 500 bucks to fix the mother f-er.... ==censor its freakin rediculous it took this long for somebody to tell me!!! the owner said hed check into their stock if they had any suitable 400 blocks i could buy and im back on craigslist again.... kinda rediculous that i buy a whole damn motor top to bottom complete and i will only be using the crank and rods(if the rods are even still good now!!!) :'( pullhairr ==rant ==hit ==dv ==snow ==kk ==er ==cuss ==slap ==wtf ==storm ==junkpc ==pullhair ==badh
and on top of all that i didnt sleep at all today just so i could do all the running around and figure crap out in between shifts..... GREAT FRIDAY THE 13th!!!
anybody wanna buy a boat anchor? would make a good stool too! or paper weight ;D
been diggin round on craigslist tryin to find a new 400 block. possibly found another 509 block that i can use.... ==junkpc
well picked up another 400 today! this one seems to be in a little better shape than the last one so far. didnt have acess to a cherry picker to get it outta my truck at the time so we did the next best thing, welded a couple chunks of steel together, mounted it to a tree and found all the chains we could(THANK YOU 7d9 z28) and used a chainfall to get it outta the truck. put it on the engine stand in the dirt and used the tractor to drag the engine on its stand through the dirt and onto the pavement. it was a rediculous, entertaining, and fun time!
sweet! ==roll
its the next day, and it still scares me..... theres no way that should have worked!
Quote from: 7d9_z28 on June 05, 2011, 11:02:12 AM
its the next day, and it still scares me..... theres no way that should have worked!
that means ya learned somethin right? lol
yes kyle, i learned this: MORE CHAINS ++peace ++peace
Quote from: 7d9_z28 on June 05, 2011, 08:14:03 PM
yes kyle, i learned this: MORE CHAINS ++peace ++peace
==thumbsup
well i got the top end of the new 400 taken off. cant say if its good news or its bad news. its clean, really clean. had some 882 casting heads on it. but it turns out the block was already bored .040 over!!! ==censor theres still a little cross hatching left on it so it hasnt had too many miles on it since the rebuild. as far as i can tell theyre just some cheap dished pistons, nothin fancy bout em. i checked out one of the main bearings and the crank wasnt ground from what i found
build a 383 like me save the money sucks people have to lie to sell suin
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on June 06, 2011, 01:28:16 AM
build a 383 like me save the money sucks people have to lie to sell suin
i dont think the guy had really lied to me, he prolly just didnt know. he really didnt know a whole lot about 400s in general and he just said it ran and it came out of a mid 80s truck(that casting was only made between 70 and 80).... and i dont wanna go 383 because that would involve buyin ANOTHER motor. im gonna have the machine shop mic up this block and see what they have to say about it. theres a chance i may still be able to use it
I just finally took the time to read this whole thread, not just parts of it. applaudd Good job man I didn't realize my truck is going to be so similar.
When mine is all done I'm planning on heading up to the dunes, I will have to give you a heads up
Good luck with the engine stuff. I'm hoping mine makes me though the rest of the year, and I have this to play with. (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f314/Jokester886/20110501175551.jpg)
Its just a newer crate motor that came out of mexico, haven't tore into it yet but it runs smoooooth
Quote from: jaredw on June 07, 2011, 04:35:46 AM
I just finally took the time to read this whole thread, not just parts of it. applaudd Good job man I didn't realize my truck is going to be so similar.
When mine is all done I'm planning on heading up to the dunes, I will have to give you a heads up
Good luck with the engine stuff. I'm hoping mine makes me though the rest of the year, and I have this to play with. (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f314/Jokester886/20110501175551.jpg)
Its just a newer crate motor that came out of mexico, haven't tore into it yet but it runs smoooooth
thanks for takin the time to read the whole thing and thanks agin! definately give me a heads up when ya go! i always like headin up to silver lake!
what kind of motor is that? just a 350? and a running motor is so much easier to work with. everything on the inside isnt usually cruddy and a mess. itd be a good cantidate for a 383 stroker!
That has always kind of been my idea. I love the torque of a 383. I have the casting numbers somewhere but its just a 250 hp base crate replacement. PO of the 79 said the put it in truck and was hardly driven.. Under the valve covers look new but that's all I looked at. Btw I love your cold air intake. I've only seen it one other time on a camaro and wanted one ever since
Quote from: jwang203 on June 07, 2011, 11:31:31 PM
That has always kind of been my idea. I love the torque of a 383. I have the casting numbers somewhere but its just a 250 hp base crate replacement. PO of the 79 said the put it in truck and was hardly driven.. Under the valve covers look new but that's all I looked at. Btw I love your cold air intake. I've only seen it one other time on a camaro and wanted one ever since
for only 250 hp its prolly just a 350. but everything being clean and looking new under the valve covers is a good sign that everything is in good shape.
and thanks! i was able to make that myself
ha, i mustve logged in under a old username for that last one.... yeah its a 350, sorry I thought I wrote that in there.
well dropped off the 400 at the machine shop yesterday. the guy says it should be just fine with a hone and reringed.... but then he was also talkin to me about different ideas to make it better and more reliale.... so it looks like my buget just doubled in the machining department... the ideas he brought up to help me out were: 5.7 forged rods, surface deck it to 9.000", balance the rotating assembly, line hone, and upgrade to a roller cam
If you do the extra work that would be awesome. Do you think its necessary for what you want though? Not much of a budget if it just doubled haha
Quote from: jaredw on June 11, 2011, 09:00:02 PM
If you do the extra work that would be awesome. Do you think its necessary for what you want though? Not much of a budget if it just doubled haha
no it wasnt really much of a budget to begin with. originally i just wanted to do bare minumums as for the bottom end, but as ive accumulated better top end parts than originally planned i might as well build it right. as for necessary....eh. i drive this thing every day for work and tow with it and beat on it, i want it to be able to hold up under all the abuse. and because its not just a straight tear down and rebuild, and i have iron eagle heads and a performance top end i should prolly spend a little more to have a bottom end properly suited to help in the long run....
Cheap...Reliable....High horsepower....you can only pick 2
specs for my heads:
http://www.dartheads.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2010/08/180-Iron-Eagle-Small-Block-Head.pdf (http://www.dartheads.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2010/08/180-Iron-Eagle-Small-Block-Head.pdf)
well during my spare time i made a receiver mount for my cheap winch that i had gotten for christmas. its better than nothin when im in a bind wheelin on my own! i still gotta finish makin the fairlead and wire it all with a custom relay box that im workin on
whats that for to pull out your lawnmower? ==roll
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on July 02, 2011, 07:08:13 AM
whats that for to pull out your lawnmower? ==roll
why not? it was free, i had it laying around so i might as well use it... i call it my JEEP extractor! ya mean you dont try to bog your lawnmover? loll
Quote from: Kyle on July 02, 2011, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on July 02, 2011, 07:08:13 AM
whats that for to pull out your lawnmower? ==roll
why not? it was free, i had it laying around so i might as well use it... i call it my JEEP extractor! ya mean you dont try to bog your lawnmover? loll
the jeep extractor i like it loll
well i got the fairlead finished painted and all mounted, mouned a relay box and wired everything up for the winch. only problem is with one set of relays, it wount unspool by switch. i can still freespool it by unhooking the bail and pullin it out by hand and it does retract by switch so far. im thinkin i bought some relays that were too big and required too much voltage for them to activate cuz it says 14VDC on the top while i have one older one that only says 12V on the top. im hoping thats what it is, otherwise ill just rip that half out and just run it one direction by switch
update over the summer:
well got the winch working properly with all the relays and such, didnt have to buy any new relays. went up to drummond island and wheeled some trails up there for a while, camera died so theres no pics but i did hit some tight ass trails and some good rock hill climbs. did manage to get up to silver lake one more time too and didnt break anything! got it all waxed and shined up and just did the cars for cancer car show last weekend. ill put some pics of that up at least loll
everything has been working just fine on it for the most part which kinda worries me too... hopefully the motor holds out for the winter... its startin to really show its tired, 247k and its been pushed pretty hard the last couple years
;D
damn i wanna sas mine so bad lol badass truck
well.... finally got the motor back. still gotta go back with the heads to measure for valve springs
what was done:
honed to .040 over
decked to 9.007"
keith black pistons (approx. 9.5:1 compr.)
scat forged 5.7 rods
polished crank
balanced rotating assembly
line honed
cam bearings
Looks great, i just went through the 17 pages lol
Quote from: muddnoob on October 08, 2011, 07:32:26 PM
Looks great, i just went through the 17 pages lol
thanks man! thanks for takin the time to go through all 17 too! lol
well i picked up the new valvaetrain yesterday and a holley 670 street avenger carb i plan on modifyin a lil bit. gonna try and order the rest from summit this weekend. what i picked up yesterday:
retrofit hyd roller cam (comp cams: XR 270 HR)
retrofit roller lifters
hardened pushrods
springs
keepers
locks
timing chain
ribbed timing cover
ive been burnin through a whole lot of money but its all finally comin together! ==whew
sweet! fordd
Yeah it gets really expensive for the good stuff Haha that's y its taken me so long
Quote from: Kyle on October 21, 2011, 08:52:09 PM
well i picked up the new valvaetrain yesterday and a holley 670 street avenger carb i plan on modifyin a lil bit. gonna try and order the rest from summit this weekend. what i picked up yesterday:
retrofit hyd roller cam (comp cams: XR 270 HR)
retrofit roller lifters
hardened pushrods
springs
keepers
locks
timing chain
ribbed timing cover
ive been burnin through a whole lot of money but its all finally comin together! ==whew
i wanna see some pics of timing cover
Quote from: Hitman89x on October 23, 2011, 06:11:35 PM
Yeah it gets really expensive for the good stuff Haha that's y its taken me so long
i think my wallet has a black hole in it..... for some reason everytime i get a paycheck its gone.... ==idunno
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on October 23, 2011, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: Kyle on October 21, 2011, 08:52:09 PM
well i picked up the new valvaetrain yesterday and a holley 670 street avenger carb i plan on modifyin a lil bit. gonna try and order the rest from summit this weekend. what i picked up yesterday:
retrofit hyd roller cam (comp cams: XR 270 HR)
retrofit roller lifters
hardened pushrods
springs
keepers
locks
timing chain
ribbed timing cover
ive been burnin through a whole lot of money but its all finally comin together! ==whew
i wanna see some pics of timing cover
will do. ill have a pic of it up sometime this week
heres the pic of the timing cover. its ribbed for strength around where the cam button would touch it
How much that run ya?
Heres the part:
http://allstarperformance.com/search.htm (http://allstarperformance.com/search.htm)
well been slowly pickin at putting the motor together. havent made alot of progress, been sick as hell. havin issues with the cam not being timed properly? and the lobes hitting the rods on the second revolution, not sure if i got the crank sprocket in the right place cuz its keyed 3 different ways or i need a small base cam..... really dont wanna drop another 500 bucks on a new cam and longer pushrods ==censor
well, its been a while since ive had time to update this. lot of work has been done. got the motor finished, got it dropped in during thanksgiving weekend, had to take the heads back of to get a plug fixed and resurfaced, got it put back together again, got it driveable(barely). and spent the last couple weeks tryin to tweak and tune the carb and timing on this SOB. been wrenchin on this almost every day... also got a new b&m torque converter controller hooked up in the truck too! and some strobes for behind the grille too ;)
Time for rockwells lol
Quote from: shortiron on December 24, 2011, 02:42:34 PM
Time for rockwells lol
rockwells just might be a lil too overkill.... lol although i prolly will end up goin 1 tons front and back
1 tons would be sweet I know I love both my trucks on them!
Quote from: betterbeaters on December 26, 2011, 02:50:15 PM
1 tons would be sweet I know I love both my trucks on them!
i know i was plannin on goin 1 ton in the rear for sure for reliability, but just converting it down to 6 lug and stickin with the d44 front axle, cuz 60s are so damn expensive and id have to modify the spring preches on the 60 to match my suspension
got my jet kit in today with a new power valve, hopefully this weekend i can get it runnin a whole lot better. got a high flow 6.5 valve and thinkin bout steppin up to some #80 jets
well i was an idiot today... shoulda rechecked my paperwork on the carb.... turns out the 770s run a 72 jet, not an 85..... its way overly jetted, but runs and drives great! until the secondaries open and it starts to pop in the exhaust. droppin it down to a 70 tommorow, it at least doesnt spit and sputter with the new power enrichment valve
been dealin with alotta crap with this new motor lately between it dumping out oil from the valve covers cuz the breathers iced up to havin crazy low oil pressure....
but ive been thinkin about the summer project, cuz i know ill have to get another tcase thats rebuilt, i have 2 ways to go:
either stick with what i have and get another tcase thats the same, buy a ford kingpin 60 and do some work makin new perches to fit my sas kit.... but ford 60s are usually pretty pricey and harder to find
or, get a chevy 60, itll bolt right in to the lift, and just find a 241 pass drop case and just modify the trans crossmember to support it all..... probably easier to find and cheaper, just may take a lil more work makin the new crossmember for it
im guessin both ways would cost about the same, the pass drop case would lower driveline angles at the case(the case does hang down lower at the front ds i thought), but using a hp ford 60 will also help with that too
anybody got any imput on which way to go?
id try for a ford kingpin dana 60 just put some new perches on it so youll have better driveline angles
I got a dana 60 chevy for sale? 4.10s dually $700 obo
Quote from: betterbeaters on January 16, 2012, 05:02:26 PM
I got a dana 60 chevy for sale? 4.10s dually $700 obo
sory but id need a srw one if i went that route. thanks tho!
I can make it srw for $900 and I can also add 4.56s for another $100
nice truck!
Quote from: Bryank on January 17, 2012, 10:07:15 PM
nice truck!
thanks man!
Quote from: betterbeaters on January 16, 2012, 07:47:17 PM
I can make it srw for $900 and I can also add 4.56s for another $100
ill keep that in mind, but i havent decided which way to go yet
most have been followin this problem on another thread.....
==cuss
Quote from: Kyle on January 24, 2012, 12:24:29 PM
most have been followin this problem on another thread.....
==cuss
wow that sucks
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on January 24, 2012, 03:14:50 PM
Quote from: Kyle on January 24, 2012, 12:24:29 PM
most have been followin this problem on another thread.....
==cuss
wow that sucks
Motor is gonna have to come back out and be gone through....
Quote from: Kyle on January 25, 2012, 01:52:00 AM
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on January 24, 2012, 03:14:50 PM
Quote from: Kyle on January 24, 2012, 12:24:29 PM
most have been followin this problem on another thread.....
==cuss
wow that sucks
Motor is gonna have to come back out and be gone through....
lets hope everything works out the second time
wow that aint lookin so good
Technically it is on its second time around... already had to redo the top end within the first hour of having it in the truck....
Motor is comin back out tommorow like it or not and goin to the shop on friday or Saturday at the latest. Don't like it one bit but its gettin done. Spring is just around the corner and I got wheeling to do!
well with the help from my awsome buddy alec we got the motor out in a couple hours. managed to not have to put the stock tires on and take off the hood either! just a sad sad sight to see again tho.... gonna bring it down to the machine shop today
sweet hope it works out this time
Came out like taco bell! quick and smooth! ++peace
well i may be a couple days behind on this update, but better late than never i guess
the morning after i got outta work i threw together this engine stand so i could transport it, cuz the machine shop ive been using isnt exactly round the corner lol held reall nice and steady in the back of my sisters truck
as for the motor, had to be completely torn down, gettin cleaned out to be on the safe side and then put back together, new bearings n such. just waitin on the call back to hear that its done!
Bout time I update this....
Got the motor back in, ran great for the first 2 days till I realized that its leakin oil outta somewhere like a byTch that ain't the valve covers or the pressure sensor- thinkin it may be oil filter adapter elbow thingy
And also the fuel pump wont shut off when its supposed to anymores. Its got a mind of its own, I never even touched the wireing for it at all and nothing is pinched anywheres. I can pull the harness from the relay and it'll stay on, but if I pull the fuse it'll shut off. There's times I can turn the key off and it will shut off like its supposed to then 5 mins later it'll be on. Makes absolutely no sense at all anymores!
Supposed to go to the dog party this weekend but if I can get this oil issue under control I wont be going....
pulled the adapter off, machine shop put it back together and never put the inner seal back in it, so i just put the screw fitting for the regular 400 sbc can on it and eliminated that whole mess. that dont leak now. but it sure looks like the oil galley pulgs do..... its comin from inside the inspection cover and the flexplate does have oil on it
as for the fuel pump i wired a switch into the cab so i dont have to keep popping the hood to de-energize the system untill i can get under there and rewire it all or find the bad ground
Quote from: Kyle on February 18, 2012, 12:38:40 AM
pulled the adapter off, machine shop put it back together and never put the inner seal back in it, so i just put the screw fitting for the regular 400 sbc can on it and eliminated that whole mess. that dont leak now. but it sure looks like the oil galley pulgs do..... its comin from inside the inspection cover and the flexplate does have oil on it
as for the fuel pump i wired a switch into the cab so i dont have to keep popping the hood to de-energize the system untill i can get under there and rewire it all or find the bad ground
this machine shop isn't making a good rep for them selves by the sounds of it ???
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on February 18, 2012, 02:09:45 AM
Quote from: Kyle on February 18, 2012, 12:38:40 AM
pulled the adapter off, machine shop put it back together and never put the inner seal back in it, so i just put the screw fitting for the regular 400 sbc can on it and eliminated that whole mess. that dont leak now. but it sure looks like the oil galley pulgs do..... its comin from inside the inspection cover and the flexplate does have oil on it
as for the fuel pump i wired a switch into the cab so i dont have to keep popping the hood to de-energize the system untill i can get under there and rewire it all or find the bad ground
this machine shop isn't making a good rep for them selves by the sounds of it ???
not anymores.... at least theyre willing to fix their mistakes!
dropping the whole truck off on monday to get the rear main fixed cuz thats what they say it prolly is. tuns out a stock seal wont work with a .020 under crank... go figure!
Got it back! It was just the rear main that needed to be switched out so she was in and out in less than a day! So far now leaks! ++peace now to move on to the next projects....
headin to the east side tommorow to get me some 1 tons! ++peace
sweet what ya getting for gears?
when i said tommorow i meant next saturday haha guy said he was busy both days this weekend. and ill be goin down to 4.56 gears now insted of the 4.10s i already have. which will basically make it as if i had 3.73s with stock tires than 3.42s with my 35s
sweet 60 front 14 rear? I loved my 4.56s with the 44s worked great!
yep. only bad thing is the rear is an open diff. i may not really need 1 tons for 35s but id rather be overkill that way if i slap a set of 40s on there for a weekend i dont have to worry bout breakin anything wheeling it hard especially with the kind of power the 408 is puttin out
sweet!
you will love the one tons!!
I got one word for you. ;D ROCKWELLS ;D its the only way lol
Quote from: shortiron on March 02, 2012, 12:45:07 AM
I got one word for you. ;D ROCKWELLS ;D its the only way lol
Oh I've been tempted!
1 tons = bolt in
rockwells = lots of fab
I would run the 1 tons seeing that its a driver...
Yea that's the way i kinda looked at it too. 1 tons it is! Maybe rocks for the next project.....
well i made a road trip and picked up a few goodies today. got a 241 pass drop from betterbeaters! thanks man! was a good time meetin ya and talkin with ya! then made my way all the way over to the east side and picked up the 1 tons! i gotta say im excited for these, aint nothin like the half ton axles!
plans are gonna be to tear the tcase apart and rebuild it, new chain and SYE kit. build it once, wont have to do it again. as for the axles wont have to do much! tear the hubs down and repack the bearings and change out any that need to be, new fluids, then gonna see if i can find some 3/8s steel layin round and fab me up some heavy diff covers. not in any rush to get these in cuz the truck works fine as it is. but the goal is to be done this summer before labor day
great meeting you too! hope the tcase works as good for you as it did for me!
so the motor had a little more power than i thought..... yes that is test hill, yes that is where i landed, no nobody got a vid of it :'( supposedly everybody up top said i got 10ft of air
the damage.....
frame tweaked on the drivers side, frame horns bent, axle toast, transfercase split in half, windsheild cracked
wow you got some work to do now.
Atleast someone got to plow with their truck this year lol ++peace ++peace ==jk
applaudd good time to put the dana 60 in huh?!
did u drive it their or trailer it? what happened just didnt let off?
Quote from: blasterguy911 on April 03, 2012, 09:14:21 PM
wow you got some work to do now.
hopefully alot less than it seems, as long as that frame can be straightened im all good
Quote from: shortiron on April 04, 2012, 02:45:07 AM
Atleast someone got to plow with their truck this year lol ++peace ++peace ==jk
==roll
Quote from: Bryank on April 04, 2012, 03:57:46 AM
applaudd good time to put the dana 60 in huh?!
60 is still gonna have to wait, still aint got the cash to get it prepped to put in or wheels and tires for that matter
Quote from: BUDGETBOGGER03 on April 04, 2012, 02:35:07 PM
did u drive it their or trailer it? what happened just didnt let off?
i drove it there with full intentions not to break it lol but i lookin at the hill from the base and seein all the slidemarks from people and nobody at the top of that section i thought it was alot looser than it was. and i did let off, just a lil too late. 408 has alot more power than the 350 than i realized lol
got it out. in better condition than i realized it was too! ==roll internalls are all nice and tight, chain aint even loose for bein the factory tcase
jb weld will fix that no problem!
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on April 05, 2012, 06:08:26 AM
jb weld will fix that no problem!
That woulda been the plan if i didnt already have one layin in the garage! Lol
woww
Ouch!
What broke it? Front driveshaft bottom out?
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on April 06, 2012, 06:08:57 AM
What broke it? Front driveshaft bottom out?
It like beyond bottomed out. Splines from the front shaft were hittin the u joint at the tcase. So thats what it seems killed it. Now i need to find one of them caps for the shaft too...
Cool truck!!! I was lookin threw all the pages of this build and seen a lot of time and money was put into doin it all the right way. i added a couple pics of my old truck I sold to my brother. He may be getting rid of it soon and I was thinkin of buyin it back and doin the sas to it. what do ya say, ready for round 2???? lol. Anyway, good luck with the rebuild from the dunes jump!!!
pics are from a couple years ago, just out playin at the mounds with my son.
thanks man! thats def a nice chevv i had originally wanted a red one back when i was lookin for a stepside. and i think im workin towards round 3 now... its been wrecked once before this thread was started lol
Quote from: Kyle on April 06, 2012, 07:01:14 PM
thanks man! thats def a nice chevv i had originally wanted a red one back when i was lookin for a stepside. and i think im workin towards round 3 now... its been wrecked once before this thread was started lol
Not by you of course!?!? Lol. I don't know if you seen it but I bought redneck_ohearn's 88 stepside bogger the end of last year. Between that, my deckover I'm modifying, and my 89 Chevy DD/bogger hauler that needs a new drivetrain, I've got my work cut out for me before the mounds reopens in May!. Anyway, awesome truck! Keep up the good work!
Quote from: black07ss on April 06, 2012, 10:53:05 AM
Cool truck!!! I was lookin threw all the pages of this build and seen a lot of time and money was put into doin it all the right way. i added a couple pics of my old truck I sold to my brother. He may be getting rid of it soon and I was thinkin of buyin it back and doin the sas to it. what do ya say, ready for round 2???? lol. Anyway, good luck with the rebuild from the dunes jump!!!
pics are from a couple years ago, just out playin at the mounds with my son.
i see that truck all over around flint!
Quote from: rangerwheelinmike on April 09, 2012, 04:27:27 AM
Quote from: black07ss on April 06, 2012, 10:53:05 AM
Cool truck!!! I was lookin threw all the pages of this build and seen a lot of time and money was put into doin it all the right way. i added a couple pics of my old truck I sold to my brother. He may be getting rid of it soon and I was thinkin of buyin it back and doin the sas to it. what do ya say, ready for round 2???? lol. Anyway, good luck with the rebuild from the dunes jump!!!
pics are from a couple years ago, just out playin at the mounds with my son.
i see that truck all over around flint!
That's my brother! If ya see him his name is mike. And tell him Matt wants his truck back! Lol
loll
I may have missed it, but what size springs do you have in the front and back?
Quote from: 94chevy_4x4 on April 13, 2012, 12:24:09 AM
I may have missed it, but what size springs do you have in the front and back?
Front springs are 4in lift 73-87 chevy front springs(47" eye to eye). The rear is still the stock springs(63" eye to eye) but with the lower 3 leaves of a 12" lift pack that had a 52" eye to eye that i has found in the junkyard added to the bottom of tbe stock pack and a 3" block to level it all out
Quote from: Kyle on April 13, 2012, 03:18:07 PM
Quote from: 94chevy_4x4 on April 13, 2012, 12:24:09 AM
I may have missed it, but what size springs do you have in the front and back?
Front springs are 4in lift 73-87 chevy front springs(47" eye to eye). The rear is still the stock springs(63" eye to eye) but with the lower 3 leaves of a 12" lift pack that had a 52" eye to eye that i has found in the junkyard added to the bottom of tbe stock pack and a 3" block to level it all out
okay sweet!
well its bout time i updated this since i broke it..... got the front axle torn down on the drivers side, tcase out and all that other fun stuff. got the new knuckle in the mail yesterday, just need to get the ball joints in it. had to cuz one of the exhaust pipes to fit the tcase in but the exhaust aint optimal for this new engine anyways
the pass drop 241 needed some mods since it was a mech speedo. i took off the tail, removed the plastic drive gear and swapped it with my electronic speedos metal gear, then made a plate to bolt the speedo sensor to the housing at the right distance and siliconed it all in so it wouldnt leak.
Gog the ol girl back together today. Exhaust looks funky as all hell the way its bent but its tucked under the framerail where it cant be seen. Speedometer even works too!!! Lol Had to put new calipers on last minute due to the fact the bleeders wouldnt break free. They just broke. But with everythin bled n all she runs down the road just fine for havin a bent frame. Hopefully the shop can get it in in the morning so i can have it back by the weekend!!
Saw your truck today at the power tour. Lookin good man
Quote from: shortiron on June 03, 2012, 11:41:30 PM
Saw your truck today at the power tour. Lookin good man
thanks man! i was hopin not too many people noticed the lack of front driveshaft lol
the guy that was next to me did a nice job with his cummins swap, it got alot of attention throughout the day
Yeah saw that truck last yr too he did a nice job
since i havent updated in a while, here goes:
got the 14 bolt torn all the way down, just need to clean out all the gears and reassemble it an weld on all the new breackets and perches. as for the 60, found out its a dodge 60 and not a chevy cuz of the different hubs and the smaller wheel studs. awsome. just gonna swap in bigger studs for it and make it work. just waiting on the steering knuckle from offroad unlimited
as for the truck, its slowly falling apart... valve covers slowly leak cuz theyre cheap stamped steel ones, rear axle is startin to leak bad thru the pinion seal. it leaks, can see it on the axle, but is never low?... voltage is low for some reason after it warms up, thinkin it may be the alternator but thats only a year old. got electric fans in! now i just need a bigger radiator to go with cuz the 2 core is no longer enough. lot of things wrong that im trying to take care of at the same time...
but i at least got to do this!!!! \/
Hey man just a heads up. I read through the thread again.. been like my 10th time loll but when you do the ton swap make sure you flip them u bolts around. So the threaded part is on top. I say this only because when i swapped springs in my 95 them little u bolt plates underneath had accumulated enough dirt over time to almost eat all the way through my u bolts. It was scary when i pulled them out.
thanks man! i appreciate it. didnt know anybody still looked at this thread anymores. but i already got the 1 tons swapped in and all working. 4wd hooked back up and already tested it out at silver lake the weekend before last. hell im already workin on building a plow for it for this winter loll but if ya want i can update it with some pics sometime
I love this thread. LIke i said ^^ I've prolly read through it 10 times. This is where i got all my ideas for my old truck from. Some new pics would be cool!
Quote from: OHEARN.2012 on October 29, 2012, 09:02:40 PM
I love this thread. LIke i said ^^ I've prolly read through it 10 times. This is where i got all my ideas for my old truck from. Some new pics would be cool!
Will do! Ill try to get some uo here soon then!
Kyle I build back blades if you need one.
Quote from: shortiron on October 30, 2012, 03:30:50 AM
Kyle I build back blades if you need one.
Too late in the year for me to worry bout a backblade. I might do one next year tho depending on this year. Im still reconstructing my plow that ive got now. Been bustin ass tryin to beat the weather
alright heres the update:
14 bolt rear is in. did the disk brake swap, made new leaf spring perches for it. pinion yoke was wore out beyound beleif so i swapped it in a new 1350 yoke. new bearings in the hubs. went with 5/8s ubolts cuz the top plates i got will accept them. i made some brackets for dual shocks in the rear but i havent had the cash to order the second set yet ==doh the 4.56 gears put the power down so well, im startin to get some bad wheel hop when i really lay on it, even with the leaf packs i have. gonna have to fab up some tractions bars one of these days!
dana 60 is in as well. still has crossover steering to it. this thing was nasty on the inside. sat so long without fluid it started to have surface rust on the inside. ujoints were all good so i didnt need to replace them. new bearings in the hubs and pinion seal after it was torn down to a bare housing and sprayed out good with the hose. yake waqs swapped out for a 1350 joint as well
made a new crossmember by taking some tubing and cutting it and bending it and welding it in line then cutting out the chunk of factory crossmember that was in the way. boxed everything in for strength. plenty of welds. held up good so far
front driveshaft had to be shortened for the longer axle pinion. rear driveshaft is the same length but i had a heavy duty one made with 1350 joints on both ends to hold up to the power the motor is putting out
made a diamond plate skidplate from some 3/16ths that ive had in the garage to tie the main beam up front to the factory crossmember for strength and to help support the plow bracket that im making
i painted the brake calipers blue ;D
and for reading all that.... heres a few pics!
Stop picking cold days to work on your truck :P
Quote from: 7d9_z28 on November 04, 2012, 06:58:33 AM
Stop picking cold days to work on your truck :P
I think mother nature just hates me. She makes me destroy my truck and then makes it crappy weather for me to fix it in!
408 is toast
what?????
Spent all night last night pulling it out and stripping it down. Got finished at 8am. All bearings on the pressure side are showing copper and just about every cylinder was burning past the rings like they werent seated at all
that sucks
Tell me bout it. Takes a dump the week before i go to silver lake.
such a good story with a horrible ending :( hope you get her going again bud
Quote from: MudDigger on July 02, 2013, 03:13:48 PM
such a good story with a horrible ending :( hope you get her going again bud
oh yea ill have her goin again. i gotta have this thing rollin to plow this winter
I'll build you a backblade if ya need one, I do small ones too lol
Quote from: shortiron on July 12, 2013, 02:30:47 AM
I'll build you a backblade if ya need one, I do small ones too lol
Small one? What would i do with one of them? Put it on my tractor? Haha i have already thought bout building one myself, but this motor put a hold on that
UPDATE:
Motor got put back in finally and got it running! Did a few burnouts for the breakin then changed the oil. Oil was all clear. Drove it 2 days and when i checked the oil it was almost 2 quarts low, but there was a slight leak at the OP zending unit. Then had to move ro my new apartment, and as my best friend followed me there, he said that at every stop and start i made it was pourning blue smoke oit the back.... and thats where im at right now... im guessing the block is inally toast
man that sucks.
Its only the 6th time ive rebuilt it of the many reasons. Cant really say i aint suprised. No money, no time, not sure what to do with it anymores...